bypassing Britain (Brexit-busting’ ferry launched from Dublin Port)

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Wait 'till the automated trucks are on the move... no cabins needed, no bar or cinema needed.

Hang on, hang on... why would they need a ferry at all? Watertight freight compartments and they can just trundle down across Rosslare strand and straight into the water. James Bond ain't in it.
Why even use trucks? Perhaps each packet of viagra could be automated and make its own way from the factory to the customer.
 


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Is this transport model really sustainable?
What’s wrong with just offloading/ loading all the containers onto a ship?

Is it really necessary that each container have it’s own specific lorry?
Already Irish Ferries carry hundreds of lorries to Britain so extending the distance to the mainland continent is no big deal.

Seems to me another facile Irish govt exercise to deflect from their failures to confront the looming border issues on Brexit.
 

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Is this transport model really sustainable?
What’s wrong with just offloading/ loading all the containers onto a ship?

Is it really necessary that each container have it’s own specific lorry?
Already Irish Ferries carry hundreds of lorries to Britain so extending the distance to the mainland continent is no big deal.

Seems to me another facile Irish govt exercise to deflect from their failures to confront the looming border issues on Brexit.
Its not a government ship - this is private industry.
 

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The other ghastly horror on this ship is where are the truckers going to sleep?

Is it intended they bunk down in their cabs buried in the bowels of a dark and dank smelly hold.?
 

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The other ghastly horror on this ship is where are the truckers going to sleep?

Is it intended they bunk down in their cabs buried in the bowels of a dark and dank smelly hold.?
I would suspect they will need cabins. They can't sleep in the trucks - it would be a serious safety issue.
 

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Its not a government ship - this is private industry.
Like flies on shyte the Irish govt were all over this thing as though it represented a breakthrough in the Brexit logjam.

Nobody is fooled by Varadakers foot dragging on the border issue.
 

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Like flies on shyte the Irish govt were all over this thing as though it represented a breakthrough in the Brexit logjam.

Nobody is fooled by Varadakers foot dragging on the border issue.
I don't think Leo's feet are a factor in the border issue at all. Only the Brits can solve it. If the UK leaves the customs union, Irish trucks and goods will have to bypass the UK. The goods can't export and reimport.
 

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I don't think Leo's feet are a factor in the border issue at all. Only the Brits can solve it. If the UK leaves the customs union, Irish trucks and goods will have to bypass the UK. The goods can't export and reimport.
Only the EU has threatened a hard border in post Brexit Ireland.
Varadaker stays shtum.

Then he pretends that big mickey boats will solve matters.
A joke.
A real joke.

[goods in transit only through the U.K. will be exempted from regular customs inspection. That is the norm in most civilized countries]
 

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The other ghastly horror on this ship is where are the truckers going to sleep?

Is it intended they bunk down in their cabs buried in the bowels of a dark and dank smelly hold.?
You haven't been on a ferry in a while, clearly. Even the mainly freight ones (other passengers use them in the off season) are perfectly pleasant, if more limited in onboard facilities and entertainment, naturally. But decent (truckers') restaurant, clean cabins, at least one bar and some sort of off-duty shop can be fitted into a fairly small proportion of a boat and leave plenty of room for freight on the other levels. Grand really.
 

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Only the EU has threatened a hard border in post Brexit Ireland.
Varadaker stays shtum.

Then he pretends that big mickey boats will solve matters.
A joke.
A real joke.
I must have missed the part where the EU forced the UK to brexit. I thought it was the UK that took that decision, no?
 

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Only the EU has threatened a hard border in post Brexit Ireland.
Varadaker stays shtum.

Then he pretends that big mickey boats will solve matters.
A joke.
A real joke.
Apparently each super-ferry will be accompanied by an assigned pope, TFM. It is a safety measure. If anything untoward happens to the MV Colm O'Gorman then everyone will be able to leg it safely to shore.
 

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Why not just load it with freight containers . It seems like a long time to have lorry drivers and the lorry units hanging about ?
 

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It can accommodate more than 600 lorries and is almost twice the size of any ferry currently operating out of Dublin Port. If all the parking lanes on the 235m long boat were laid end to end, it would stretch to almost 8 kilometres, making it the world’s largest short sea roll-on roll-off vessel.

It is hoped its size will allow hundreds of thousands of additional tonnes of freight go to and from the Continent each year, bypassing Britain and the border controls and paperwork that may be inevitable if a hard Brexit becomes a reality.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ire...ing-ferry-launched-from-dublin-port-1.3468760


It sounds a good idea even if Brexit had not take place,
I agree, sounds like a good idea - except the 30 hours travel time. Is there any closer landfall on the continent?
 

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The other issue nobody addressed afaik is cost?

How much will this 30 hour overnight sea voyage cost versus the overland trip through the U.K..?

On the swings and roundabouts between extra costs and time I largely suspect this big mickey boat is going to be more expensive by a significant factor.
 

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Container ships already do the route
The deciding factor will be time and costs.
Anything from the Irish haulage association?

I’d believe these people before any govt spin doctor.
 

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The other issue nobody addressed afaik is cost?

How much will this 30 hour overnight sea voyage cost versus the overland trip through the U.K..?

On the swings and roundabouts between extra costs and time I largely suspect this big mickey boat is going to be more expensive by a significant factor.
I imagine if it doesnt attract business and doesnt make a profit, then the private company behind this route will withdraw the service.
 

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Fool. Stay off threads you know nothing about.
So you do not care that 600 hundred truckers will have to bed down in their trucks in dank smelly dungeons in the bowels of this what can only be called a ship of torture.
 


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