Calvacade to commemorate Veterans and Victims of WWII: Cork.

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Cavalcade to commemorate veterans and victims of World War II

On the 7th May 2017 the Russian speaking community of Cork plans to run a motorcade event to commemorate and pay respect to over 28 million Soviet people who died in the Second World War 1939-1945.

This event is affiliated with the 9th of May - a national holiday in Russia and some other former soviet states, which celebrates the defeat of the Nazi Germany in World War II. This day is called a Victory Day and is a VERY IMPORTANT DAY in the countries, which were part of the USSR, including, but not limited to Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Belarus, Ukraine, Moldova, Russia, etc...

This day is very important to many Russian-speakers who live here in Cork. Almost all of the families who will participate in the motorcade on the 7th of May 2016 have some family members who took part in this war. The number of veterans is decreasing every year and the Victory Day honours those people who took part in this patriotic war and fought for our freedom and commemorates those who did not come back from the battle field.

Luckily Ireland was not directly involved in this war, but some Irish people also fought together with the British Army against the Nazis and contributed to this victory.
 


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The Russian speaking is large enough, a few enough thousands.
 

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British and American veterans could join in the 'cavalcade'.

After all, they were the ones who kept the Nazi jackboot out
of Ireland in WW2.....:p
 

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The Eastern Front was barbaric but it did win the war for the allies thanks to the numbers game. Stalin was happy enough to lose a million men in a battle as he had two million more replacements numbers that the Germans could never match.
 

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The latest historical research tends to suggest the Germns never had a chance of succeeding on the eastern front.

Even within two months of the beginning of Barbarossa, the Wehrmacht was suffering horrific casualties
 

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The Eastern Front was barbaric but it did win the war for the allies thanks to the numbers game. Stalin was happy enough to lose a million men in a battle as he had two million more replacements numbers that the Germans could never match.
A convenient lie. 'Playing the numbers game' = the red army was larger and stronger. What does that even mean, playing the numbers game?

The red army was mobilized from among a population of like 200 million, of course they had more soldiers? If the US had more soldiers they would have deployed them, same with UK. Though France had the largest standing army and still ended up mostly collaborating, perhaps it has something to do with the USSR being in actual opposition to Nazism, Fascism and Capitalism rather than pretending like the West?
 

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A convenient lie. 'Playing the numbers game' = the red army was larger and stronger. What does that even mean, playing the numbers game?

The red army was mobilized from among a population of like 200 million, of course they had more soldiers? If the US had more soldiers they would have deployed them, same with UK. Though France had the largest standing army and still ended up mostly collaborating, perhaps it has something to do with the USSR being in actual opposition to Nazism, Fascism and Capitalism rather than pretending like the West?
The numbers don't lie my friend Germany invaded Russia with 3.5 million men and that was never going to be enough to stand up to the sheer numbers of Russians which could be mobilised. Most of the Russian dead were cannon fodder to the panzer groups.

As for France having a large standing army that was to be expected as they were so close to Germany and they presumed that the next war would be fought in the trenches again but they were never prepared for the modern war which allowed the Germans to overrun France in six weeks.
 

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A convenient lie. 'Playing the numbers game' = the red army was larger and stronger. What does that even mean, playing the numbers game?

The red army was mobilized from among a population of like 200 million, of course they had more soldiers? If the US had more soldiers they would have deployed them, same with UK. Though France had the largest standing army and still ended up mostly collaborating, perhaps it has something to do with the USSR being in actual opposition to Nazism, Fascism and Capitalism rather than pretending like the West?
.....and in actual opposition to democracy too, let's not forget.
 

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A convenient lie. 'Playing the numbers game' = the red army was larger and stronger. What does that even mean, playing the numbers game?

The red army was mobilized from among a population of like 200 million, of course they had more soldiers? If the US had more soldiers they would have deployed them, same with UK. Though France had the largest standing army and still ended up mostly collaborating, perhaps it has something to do with the USSR being in actual opposition to Nazism, Fascism and Capitalism rather than pretending like the West?

......following nearly two years of cooperation with Nazism and Fascism.
 

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A convenient lie. 'Playing the numbers game' = the red army was larger and stronger. What does that even mean, playing the numbers game?

The red army was mobilized from among a population of like 200 million, of course they had more soldiers? If the US had more soldiers they would have deployed them, same with UK. Though France had the largest standing army and still ended up mostly collaborating, perhaps it has something to do with the USSR being in actual opposition to Nazism, Fascism and Capitalism rather than pretending like the West?
The Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact, also known as the Nazi–Soviet Pact[1] or the German–Soviet Non-aggression Pact[2][3] (officially: Treaty of Non-aggression between Germany and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics),[a] was a neutrality pact between Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union signed in Moscow on 23 August 1939 by foreign ministers Joachim von Ribbentrop and Vyacheslav Molotov, respectively.[5]


Stalin and Ribbentrop shaking hands after the signing of the pact on August 23, 1939

Your memory is faulty Mr K

Mr Hitler & Mr Stalin got on famously until 22 June 1941

In fact historians often wonder why Hitler turned on his Ally the Soviet Union when they were getting on so well together..:cool:
 

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Up until the last second Stalin did not think that Hitler would turn on him and this allowed the Germans to make huge gains in the early days of the Eastern Front.
 

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Did you forget that Britain and France colluded to split Czechoslovakia between Germany and Poland, or that they both rebuffed an anti-Hitler alliance up until they were invaded and attacked to try to get the USSR and Nazi Germany to fight each other?

As far back as 1936 when Spain was torn apart by the fascists - the 'Western democracies' stood idly by.

Such a cherry picked history you have here friends.
 

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Did you forget that Britain and France colluded to split Czechoslovakia between Germany and Poland, or that they both rebuffed an anti-Hitler alliance up until they were invaded and attacked to try to get the USSR and Nazi Germany to fight each other?

As far back as 1936 when Spain was torn apart by the fascists - the 'Western democracies' stood idly by.

Such a cherry picked history you have here friends.
You are not living in Britain or France - but Ireland

We were Neutral in the Second World War

We didn't invade anybody

Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union most certainly did.....
 

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You are not living in Britain or France - but Ireland

We were Neutral in the Second World War

We didn't invade anybody

Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union most certainly did.....
The Russian occupation of WWII countries went on well into the 80's and 90's
 


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