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Cameron didn't care if Scotland became independent

gleeful

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David Cameron ‘didn’t care’ about independence, claims ex-MP

“‘Look Nick’, said David Cameron impatiently, ‘I just don’t care. We’ve only got one Conservative MP north of the Border. Let Labour sort it out. It’s now their problem.’

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Leader of the Scottish Liberal Democrats Willie Rennie added: “The Tories aren’t Unionists, they are divisionists.

“Whether it’s portraying Scotland as a pickpocket or taking £7 billion out of its budget, the Tories just care about themselves and their party.”


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Makes you wonder about Brexit. Sure if it happens it will damage the UK economy, but the Tories will be fine.
 


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David Cameron ‘didn’t care’ about independence, claims ex-MP

“‘Look Nick’, said David Cameron impatiently, ‘I just don’t care. We’ve only got one Conservative MP north of the Border. Let Labour sort it out. It’s now their problem.’

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Leader of the Scottish Liberal Democrats Willie Rennie added: “The Tories aren’t Unionists, they are divisionists.

“Whether it’s portraying Scotland as a pickpocket or taking £7 billion out of its budget, the Tories just care about themselves and their party.”


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Makes you wonder about Brexit. Sure if it happens it will damage the UK ecomomy, but the Tories will be fine.
Who's surprised? The only thing the conservatives worry about is the city of London and the nice parts of south East England. The rest is just where the peasants reside. Scotland Wales and the North of Ireland are not even blips their radar.
 

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The most surprising thing is that Nick Clegg expects us to believe he cared.
 

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To be fair to Cameron maybe he was misinterpreted. Maybe he felt that Labour had to do the heavy lifting as they were the biggest unionist party and looked set to stay that way for a while (though the opinion polls now suggest otherwise).

That being said Clegg's criticism of the Tories as 'short-termist and short-sighted', pretty accurately sums up my view of Cameron.
 

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Who's surprised? The only thing the conservatives worry about is the city of London and the nice parts of south East England. The rest is just where the peasants reside. Scotland Wales and the North of Ireland are not even blips their radar.
The north equals Labour and the south equals Tory is a long out dated myth. There are great numbers of Tory MPs elected right across the north of England.

The 2015 general election shows the extent of northern Conservatism, and Labours strength in London. The divide between Labour and Conservatives is more along rural/urban lines.

 
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The north equals Labour and the south equals Tory is a long out dated myth. There are great numbers of Tory MPs elected right across the north of England.

The 2015 general election shows the extent of northern Conservatism, and Labours strength in London. The divide between Labour and Conservatives is more along rural/urban lines.

I'm trying to recall the name f the comedian who pointed out that there were more pandas in Scotland at that moment than there were Tory MPs.

The North/South separation is most certainly true when you compare Scotland's voting patterns to that of England. The difference is enormous.
 

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I'm trying to recall the name f the comedian who pointed out that there were more pandas in Scotland at that moment than there were Tory MPs.
Sounds like Frankie Boyle :)

The North/South separation is most certainly true when you compare Scotland's voting patterns to that of England. The difference is enormous.
Yes, it is quite dramatic.
 

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Did another David, DLG, care if Southern Ireland left The Union in 1921! I suspect not!
 

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If Cameron loses The Union, he loses his job!
 

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Did another David, DLG, care if Southern Ireland left The Union in 1921! I suspect not!
I suspect he did otherwise we wouldn't have had all that nonsense with the Black and Tans. He could have just invited the SFers over in 1918 to negotiate the Treaty instead.
 

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I suspect The Tories are more Unionist than FF are Irish Republicans or our Red Blueshirts are Socilaists and indeed up until Corby took over The British Labour Party were Socialist!
 

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Technically it was a vote of changing masters, from the UK to the EU. I wanted them to gain independence to find out what would actually happen to their promise of keeping the pound, joining the EU, and drowning in all that unfounded oil.
 

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The north equals Labour and the south equals Tory is a long out dated myth. There are great numbers of Tory MPs elected right across the north of England.

The 2015 general election shows the extent of northern Conservatism, and Labours strength in London. The divide between Labour and Conservatives is more along rural/urban lines.

I'm talking city of London not ordinary London and labour got hockeyed everywhere as the chose the wrong milliband.
 

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David Cameron ‘didn’t care’ about independence, claims ex-MP

“‘Look Nick’, said David Cameron impatiently, ‘I just don’t care. We’ve only got one Conservative MP north of the Border. Let Labour sort it out. It’s now their problem.’

....

Leader of the Scottish Liberal Democrats Willie Rennie added: “The Tories aren’t Unionists, they are divisionists.

“Whether it’s portraying Scotland as a pickpocket or taking £7 billion out of its budget, the Tories just care about themselves and their party.”


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Makes you wonder about Brexit. Sure if it happens it will damage the UK economy, but the Tories will be fine.
The British Conservative party care about the British Conservative party, the south of England, the Etonian old boy's network in the city of London, the upper middle and upper classes, the capitalist and entrepreneurial class, the multinational corporations and sustaining membership of a European union which disenfranchises indigenous British workers. Of course they don't give a f*** about the Jocks. They look upon them the same way they look upon the Northern Irish; paddies, and the backside of the UK.
 

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The UK is run by a cabal of Scotsmen behind the scenes!petunia
 

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I'm talking city of London not ordinary London and labour got hockeyed everywhere as the chose the wrong milliband.
I agree they chose the wrong Miliband, but that was swung by the Union block vote.

It does show though, that the north of England is not averse to voting Conservative in large numbers - the political map for 1983 is not dissimilar to this one.
 

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Cameron promised a referendum when it looked as if the yes vote would remain below 20%. In the same way as he casually granted a BREXIT referendum.

He thinks in terms of playing to the next media cycle. What does he not realise is that once you start down this road you are not in control of what happens next.

Cameron got the shock of his life as the yes vote climbed during the Scots campaign and was left in the final week or so making all sorts of offers. The outcome went his way but at the price of making Scots independence look very plausible.

He is a poor politican and certainly not one who thinks long-term. This is becoming more and more obvious. He'll be gone quite soon.
 

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The vast majority of the English public cared less as well according to opinion polls. This is a surprise to no one on this island - but it does put to bed the notion of Cameron and the English desperately begging the Scots to stay.
Indeed, they left it down to Bob Unionist Geldof to do the heavy lifting.

Lolz.
 

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