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Cameron Threatens EU Veto


Ulster-Lad

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The UK Prime Minister, David Cameron, has threatened to Veto the EU budget unless it sacks staff and cuts the pay of over 4000 people on six-figure salaries.

I can't see any fault in this as everyone in the EU is expected to introduce austerity and subject their populations to austerity. That is of course with the exception of the EU powers that be and other politicians.

Of course we all know that Cameron would not Veto anything to do with Europe now don't we? Apparently the budget is something that has not been taken over (yet) by QVM.

David Cameron has vowed to get "tough" with Europe, as he threatened to veto the EU budget unless it sacks staff and cuts the pay of 4,000 officials on six-figure salaries.

Speaking after a two-day summit, Mr Cameron directly challenged the EU to take "more rigorous" action to cut costs or face another veto from the UK.

Mr Cameron said his "favourite" fact about Brussels over-spending is that 16 per cent of administrative staff at the European Commission earn more than €100,000 or more than £80,000 a year.

The European Commission has asked for a higher budget that would cost Britain an extra £10 billion over seven years and repeatedly ignored requests from member countries to reduce staffing costs.

"Because of language requirements, we are better educated than national civil servants. We're high fliers not burger flippers."
David Cameron threatens to veto EU budget unless Brussels sacks staff - Telegraph
 

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A Guardian link for those that don't like the Telegraph link.

David Cameron has laid out an ambitious battle plan to secure a new British relationship with Europe as he called for cuts in the senior commission payroll, and warned he was prepared to veto increases in the new long-term EU budget.

Speaking at the close of an EU summit devoted to banking union, he signalled he was opening a fresh front by arguing that commission plans for a new euro-area budget should justify a smaller budget for the EU as a whole, a proposal rejected at the summit by many EU partners.
David Cameron begins battle over Britain's relationship with EU | Politics | The Guardian

From the Guardian link

There are 55,000 EU staff in total. The average salary across EU institutions is €102,000, according to British sources.

A letter from the eight countries which pay more into the EU budget than they get out of it in benefits claimed this week that the European commission was demanding a 26% increase to pay for the costs of its civil service for the next seven-year budget period.
 
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While I can certainly get behind this, I fear it is a bit out of step with the priorities of other member states, will be seen as Britain being difficult when more important matters need to be dealt with. Also it doesn't help to just drop this stuff on the table, generally you want to spend months building consensus on things like this before a summit.

(It is worth pointing out that given the size of the area it governs, the Union is actually a relatively small organisation. Not a particularly well run organisation, but a small one, nothing compared to the bureaucracies of the member states themselves.)

I've said it before and I'll say it again; we've reached a point where the Union institutions cannot meet the needs of Eurozone states; those states should just form a new state that is itself a member of the Union, and the Union itself can be streamlined. Economic/political crisis solved, less than eager states happy, avoids all the endless treaty blather, everybody wins.
 

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German Chancellor Angela Merkel has said strengthened Ireland's bid for more favourable terms on its bank debt, calling it a "special case". However, she is planning to warn Britain that Germany will seek to cancel next month’s European budget summit if David Cameron insists that he will veto any deal other than a total freeze on spending.
Debt Crisis: Live - Merkel aids Ireland but warns Cameron against a veto - Telegraph

The political chess game is on. What would happen if the budget meeting was cancelled??
 

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The UK Prime Minister, David Cameron, has threatened to Veto the EU budget unless it sacks staff and cuts the pay of over 4000 people on six-figure salaries.

I can't see any fault in this as everyone in the EU is expected to introduce austerity and subject their populations to austerity. That is of course with the exception of the EU powers that be and other politicians.

Of course we all know that Cameron would not Veto anything to do with Europe now don't we? Apparently the budget is something that has not been taken over (yet) by QVM.

David Cameron threatens to veto EU budget unless Brussels sacks staff - Telegraph
A commission spokesman told The Daily Telegraph: "We declined as it's a lot of work and waste of time for our staff who busy with more urgent matters.
"Because of language requirements, we are better educated than national civil servants. We're high fliers not burger flippers."
Oh dear oh dear oh dear. Such arrogance!
 

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"If there isn't a deal that's good for Britain, there won't be a deal," he said. "We can't have European spending go up and up and up when we're having to make difficult decisions in so many different areas."
Can't say I disagree, even if I suspect he's doing all this mostly as red meat to his Eurosceptic-orientated party.
 

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It does go to show however the uncanny power that Merkel can wield. Can any other EU leader cancel a budget summit like that??
 

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It does go to show however the uncanny power that Merkel can wield. Can any other EU leader cancel a budget summit like that??
If she can, then any one of them can.
 
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"Because of language requirements, we are better educated than national civil servants. We're high fliers not burger flippers."
the guys in my local chipper speak English and Italian
 

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ahh yes, those high flying eurotron civil servants, such as our own 'We need to talk about Kevin'.

Honestly though, you would think that the likes of the Germans would agree with the Brits on reducing the overspending & wastage at the EU level. It's just aiding & abetting the parallel cultures of profligicy at the national political level.
 

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This is a good decision by Cameron.

Whilst people such as Merkel are telling people around the EU to tighten their belts and face austerity measures (albeit necessary ones) there doesn't seem to be any sign from the EU's arrogant and out-of-touch leaders that they themselves are tightening their belts.

And trust Britain to be the one demanding eurocrats tighten their belts. We usually seem to be the only EU country that actually does something about problems like this.
 

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Can't say I disagree, even if I suspect he's doing all this mostly as red meat to his Eurosceptic-orientated party.
If the Conservatives are Eurosceptic then they are more in touch with the British people than the other two main parties. Most Britons are themselves Eurosceptic. And if the Conservatives do the right thing - give us the EU in/out referendum that the overwhelming majority of the British people want - then there will only be one winner in the 2015 General Election.
 

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If the Conservatives are Eurosceptic then they are more in touch with the British people than the other two main parties. Most Britons are themselves Eurosceptic. And if the Conservatives do the right thing - give us the EU in/out referendum that the overwhelming majority of the British people want - then there will only be one winner in the 2015 General Election.
Most Southern English people you mean ! The Scots, the Welsh and those in the North of England are mostly against EU withdrawal . If he threatens to withdraw it will certainly lead the Scots to vote independence in .
 

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The only on of our MEP's who is brave enough to stand up and fight for Ireland had made another shout, but truthful speech,

Fair play to whatever constituency elected him, I dunno which one it was, and I can't quite pinpoint his accent,

Cork maybe??????

[video=youtube;YSoCZs8WlDg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSoCZs8WlDg&feature=youtu.be[/video]
 

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Most Southern English people you mean ! The Scots, the Welsh and those in the North of England are mostly against EU withdrawal . If he threatens to withdraw it will certainly lead the Scots to vote independence in .
who on gods earth are the "southern english".the english are 85% of the uk,they produce probably 95% 0f the wealth and most of them want out of the corrupt ,undemocratic,socialist EU. to which they subsisdise billions.we irish are beggars from the EU and have been since the begining.we gave away our crown jewels(the fishing waters)so that our inefficient farmers could be subsidised by other nations.our gutless politicians are happy to go along with it (jobs for the boys) our seed corn youth are emigrating.in 2016 we will be commemorating one power taking over from another.100yrs of failure.
 

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who on gods earth are the "southern english".the english are 85% of the uk,they produce probably 95% 0f the wealth and most of them want out of the corrupt ,undemocratic,socialist EU. to which they subsisdise billions.we irish are beggars from the EU and have been since the begining.we gave away our crown jewels(the fishing waters)so that our inefficient farmers could be subsidised by other nations.our gutless politicians are happy to go along with it (jobs for the boys) our seed corn youth are emigrating.in 2016 we will be commemorating one power taking over from another.100yrs of failure.
You don't really believe all that ************************e do you ! Produce 95% of he wealth etc ! Right wing Tory waffle ! You may have some valid points about the EU but to try and pretend Ireland hasn't benefited in some ways. Do you really think the UK business community wants out of the EU , that's delusional , bring back import duties etc , it's a non starter and Cameron knows it . By the way I've spent 30 plus years working in the UK and more living there so I do have some idea.
 

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Thank goodness we have people like Cameron to defend us from the EU. The irony of demanding spending cuts here (and in Greece, Spain, Italy, Portugal etc.) while they increase their own budget cannot b e lost on anyone.
Just like our Croagh Park agreement????????????
 
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