Can Brexit Deliver Irish Unity?

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Some recent headlines:

"Get ready for united Ireland poll Taoiseach Enda Kenny tells EU leaders"

Taoiseach Enda Kenny has for the first time opened the door to a future referendum on Irish unity.

In a significant move, Mr Kenny called on the European Union to prepare for the prospect of Northern Ireland seeking to join the Republic.

The Fine Gael leader said a future border poll was now possible in light of the decision by Britain to leave the EU.

Get ready for united Ireland poll Taoiseach Enda Kenny tells EU leaders - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk


"Micheál Martin hopes Brexit will lead to a vote on a reunited Ireland"

FIANNA FÁIL LEADER Micheál Martin says that he hopes the UK’s Brexit vote will eventually lead to a referendum on a united Ireland.

Delivering the John Hume lecture at the MacGill summer school in Donegal, Martin says that the Brexit vote is a “defining moment in Northern politics”.

Micheál Martin hopes Brexit will lead to a vote on a reunited Ireland


"Sinn Fein calls for Irish unity poll as Brexit fallout begins"

Northern Ireland's deputy leader Martin McGuinness called on Friday for a vote to unite the two sides of the Irish border as stocks tumbled in the economic and political fallout from Britain's decision to quit the EU.

Ireland has the EU's fastest-growing economy but also more to lose from Brexit than any other member state, with far-reaching implications for its trade, economy, security of energy supplies and peace in British-ruled Northern Ireland.

Sinn Fein calls for Irish unity poll as Brexit fallout begins | Reuters


"How Brexit has suddenly made the prospect of a united Ireland thinkable"

Protestant unionists are queuing for Irish passports in Belfast and once quiet Catholic nationalists are openly campaigning for a united Ireland, signs of deep shifts in the United Kingdom's most troubled province since Britain voted to leave the EU.

How Brexit has suddenly made the prospect of a united Ireland thinkable | UK Politics | News | The Independent


Question: Even though the British SOS for NI has stated that the conditions to call a border poll have not yet been met, with no discernible majority within NI manifesting a desire to unify with the RoI, shall the dreaded negative socio-political and socio-economic impact of leaving the EU once Article 50 has been triggered, not catalyse a resurgence in Irish nationalist aspiration on both sides of the border, and motivate many hitherto apathetic Irish people, nowhere more so than in the RoI, to seize the moment and avail of the opportunity to finally achieve Irish reunification?
 


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while I would hope so, it is far too early to call. when we have a clearer view on what Brexit will look like - especially for Norn Ireland, and the likely path taken by the scots, then we will have some indication on what (if any) change is likely in NI
 

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and by the end of the week...
 

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Some one is attention seeking - It isn't as if there aren't threads already on Brexit and Irish Unity ....
If you're not going to address the thread topic, stop spamming and get out of the thread.
 

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If you're not going to address the thread topic, stop spamming and get out of the thread.
He's made a painfully valid point, the forum is littered with this topic - this thread should be merged.

There is nothing new or original in your OP that couldn't been added as a post to one of them.
 

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Question: Even though the British SOS for NI has stated that the conditions to call a border poll have not yet been met, with no discernible majority within NI manifesting a desire to unify with the RoI, shall the dreaded negative socio-political and socio-economic impact of leaving the EU once Article 50 has been triggered, not catalyse a resurgence in Irish nationalist aspiration on both sides of the border, and motivate many hitherto apathetic Irish people, nowhere more so than in the RoI, to seize the moment and avail of the opportunity to finally achieve Irish reunification?
What for? Will all these people suddenly feel an inexplicable sudden urge to become a nation once again just over their cornflakes one day?
 

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What for? Will all these people suddenly feel an inexplicable sudden urge to become a nation once again just over their cornflakes one day?
I think the hope is based on the somewhat far fetched idea that the loyalist community are so desperate to stay in the EU they will abandon hundreds of years of traditional affiliation and vote for a UI to retain membership.

The passion both for and against the EU among ordinary people has been grossly over estimated across the entire UK.
 

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I think the hope is based on the somewhat far fetched idea that the loyalist community are so desperate to stay in the EU they will abandon hundreds of years of traditional affiliation and vote for a UI to retain membership.

The passion both for and against the EU among ordinary people has been grossly over estimated across the entire UK.
That and the realisation that Sinn Féin cannot deliver the goods .... well, dodgy ciggies and diesel excepted ....

Bit embarrassing really in 2016 to see all these SF bots and groupies reduced to flogging the dead horse of Brexit .... but hey ho, they are desperate and it has been a terrible 2016 - Slab Banged up, terrible elections on both sides of the border, dGerry snubbed in the USA, that Tweet from same dGerry, Phil Flanagan and his Isis howler and now poor wee Daisy McKay is being thrown to the wolves as PSF desperately try to deny that the hit on Peter Robinson was authorised :D
 
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while I would hope so, it is far too early to call. when we have a clearer view on what Brexit will look like - especially for Norn Ireland, and the likely path taken by the scots, then we will have some indication on what (if any) change is likely in NI
Yes, I´m with you there. As for hoping for a UI, I´m rather choose to be impartial there and wait and see how things unfold in the next couple of months and what will be the result of it next year. There is a tendency that it might go towards a UI, maybe more likely the more things get worse in GB.
 
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Some recent headlines:

"Get ready for united Ireland poll Taoiseach Enda Kenny tells EU leaders"

Taoiseach Enda Kenny has for the first time opened the door to a future referendum on Irish unity.

In a significant move, Mr Kenny called on the European Union to prepare for the prospect of Northern Ireland seeking to join the Republic.

The Fine Gael leader said a future border poll was now possible in light of the decision by Britain to leave the EU.

Get ready for united Ireland poll Taoiseach Enda Kenny tells EU leaders - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk


"Micheál Martin hopes Brexit will lead to a vote on a reunited Ireland"

FIANNA FÁIL LEADER Micheál Martin says that he hopes the UK’s Brexit vote will eventually lead to a referendum on a united Ireland.

Delivering the John Hume lecture at the MacGill summer school in Donegal, Martin says that the Brexit vote is a “defining moment in Northern politics”.

Micheál Martin hopes Brexit will lead to a vote on a reunited Ireland


"Sinn Fein calls for Irish unity poll as Brexit fallout begins"

Northern Ireland's deputy leader Martin McGuinness called on Friday for a vote to unite the two sides of the Irish border as stocks tumbled in the economic and political fallout from Britain's decision to quit the EU.

Ireland has the EU's fastest-growing economy but also more to lose from Brexit than any other member state, with far-reaching implications for its trade, economy, security of energy supplies and peace in British-ruled Northern Ireland.

Sinn Fein calls for Irish unity poll as Brexit fallout begins | Reuters


"How Brexit has suddenly made the prospect of a united Ireland thinkable"

Protestant unionists are queuing for Irish passports in Belfast and once quiet Catholic nationalists are openly campaigning for a united Ireland, signs of deep shifts in the United Kingdom's most troubled province since Britain voted to leave the EU.

How Brexit has suddenly made the prospect of a united Ireland thinkable | UK Politics | News | The Independent


Question: Even though the British SOS for NI has stated that the conditions to call a border poll have not yet been met, with no discernible majority within NI manifesting a desire to unify with the RoI, shall the dreaded negative socio-political and socio-economic impact of leaving the EU once Article 50 has been triggered, not catalyse a resurgence in Irish nationalist aspiration on both sides of the border, and motivate many hitherto apathetic Irish people, nowhere more so than in the RoI, to seize the moment and avail of the opportunity to finally achieve Irish reunification?
All the articles in those links are by now already too old.
 

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I think the hope is based on the somewhat far fetched idea that the loyalist community are so desperate to stay in the EU they will abandon hundreds of years of traditional affiliation and vote for a UI to retain membership.

The passion both for and against the EU among ordinary people has been grossly over estimated across the entire UK.
And how do you come to this conclusion?
 

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Some recent headlines:

"Get ready for united Ireland poll Taoiseach Enda Kenny tells EU leaders"

Taoiseach Enda Kenny has for the first time opened the door to a future referendum on Irish unity.

In a significant move, Mr Kenny called on the European Union to prepare for the prospect of Northern Ireland seeking to join the Republic.

The Fine Gael leader said a future border poll was now possible in light of the decision by Britain to leave the EU.

Get ready for united Ireland poll Taoiseach Enda Kenny tells EU leaders - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk


"Micheál Martin hopes Brexit will lead to a vote on a reunited Ireland"

FIANNA FÁIL LEADER Micheál Martin says that he hopes the UK’s Brexit vote will eventually lead to a referendum on a united Ireland.

Delivering the John Hume lecture at the MacGill summer school in Donegal, Martin says that the Brexit vote is a “defining moment in Northern politics”.

Micheál Martin hopes Brexit will lead to a vote on a reunited Ireland


"Sinn Fein calls for Irish unity poll as Brexit fallout begins"

Northern Ireland's deputy leader Martin McGuinness called on Friday for a vote to unite the two sides of the Irish border as stocks tumbled in the economic and political fallout from Britain's decision to quit the EU.

Ireland has the EU's fastest-growing economy but also more to lose from Brexit than any other member state, with far-reaching implications for its trade, economy, security of energy supplies and peace in British-ruled Northern Ireland.

Sinn Fein calls for Irish unity poll as Brexit fallout begins | Reuters


"How Brexit has suddenly made the prospect of a united Ireland thinkable"

Protestant unionists are queuing for Irish passports in Belfast and once quiet Catholic nationalists are openly campaigning for a united Ireland, signs of deep shifts in the United Kingdom's most troubled province since Britain voted to leave the EU.

How Brexit has suddenly made the prospect of a united Ireland thinkable | UK Politics | News | The Independent


Question: Even though the British SOS for NI has stated that the conditions to call a border poll have not yet been met, with no discernible majority within NI manifesting a desire to unify with the RoI, shall the dreaded negative socio-political and socio-economic impact of leaving the EU once Article 50 has been triggered, not catalyse a resurgence in Irish nationalist aspiration on both sides of the border, and motivate many hitherto apathetic Irish people, nowhere more so than in the RoI, to seize the moment and avail of the opportunity to finally achieve Irish reunification?
You typed that with one hand, didn't you ?
 

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That and the realisation that Sinn Féin cannot deliver the goods .... well, dodgy ciggies and diesel excepted ....

Bit embarrassing really in 2016 to see all these SF bots and groupies reduced to flogging the dead horse of Brexit .... but hey ho, they are desperate and it has been a terrible 2016 - Slab Banged up, terrible elections on both sides of the border, dGerry snubbed in the USA, that Tweet from same dGerry, Phil Flanagan and his Isis howler and now poor wee Daisy McKay is being thrown to the wolves as PSF desperately try to deny that the hit on Peter Robinson was authorised :D
Bit embarrassing that your first post was an irrelevance, then you began your second with a misnomer, and then proceed to provide a round-up of recent events based upon the fallacious notion that I'm a Shinner or support SF.

Prejudiced and totally wrong frequently?
 
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Everything that works towards the breakup of the so called "UK" is good for Ireland - and for England, Scotland, Wales and Cornwall also.
 

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Bit embarrassing that you begin with a misnomer and then proceed to provide a round-up of recent events based upon the fallacious notion that I'm a Shinner or support SF.
That's how he rolls. You don't agree wholesale with him, therefore you are a shinner. In the same way you call me a West Brit, and Strawberry and Englishman. Sauce for the goose...
 

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And how do you come to this conclusion?
Take yourself as an example - anyone who seriously thinks Brexit has suddenly converted the PUL community in NI into voting for reunification to stay in the EU, is definitely over estimating the love for the EU for a start.
 

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Everything that works towards the breakup of the so called "UK" is good for Ireland - and for England, Scotland, Wales and Cornwall also.
I can't see Cornish Nationalism ever taking off, but there have been sinister forewarnings from Cornish militants...

[video=youtube;VEYmJjcYwGg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEYmJjcYwGg[/video]
 

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That's how he rolls. You don't agree wholesale with him, therefore you are a shinner. In the same way you call me a West Brit, and Strawberry and Englishman. Sauce for the goose...
I may have referred to you as a West-tit, and that has been confirmed.
 


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