Can Doug Hoffman kill off the Republican Party

mryoungdan

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Doug Hoffman is running as an independent in the upcoming NY23 district.

It is an election with enormous ramifications.

Obama is heading up to help the democrat candidate.

If Hoffman can beat both the dem and rep it will definitely finish the GOP.

The Paulites will be emboldened to call themselves what they are, Constitution Party members. They would be a step closer to success.

The question is.

Can history be made and can Hoffman win
 


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The 2nd congressman has now gone against the republican party and has endorsed Hoffman.

Kansas GOP Rep. Tiahrt Endorses Conservative Party's Hoffman In NY-23 | TPMDC

I am not familiar with this congressman but it is of note that he should break ranks because he is running for the nomination for the Senate seat on 2010. Perhaps he sees the writing on the wall.

Michelle Bachman has already endorsed him.

Ron Paul type candidates are stepping forward and I hope they contest all 435 House seats next year.

To hear Newr Gingrich on the radio defending the party candidate today was laughable. He and his ilk are the problem and they will be flushed out
 

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My Way News - Fla. gov's Obama hug lingers in US Senate primary


We see the same dynamic working in the senate race in Florida for 2010.

Crist was seen as unbeatable. Well the fact of the matter is people have their fill of these phoney republicans. Especially tanned boy who gave us McCain.

Rubio has been endorsed by Sens Demint and Inhoff and a slew of lesser figures

Crist has seen his lead cut from 29 to 15%.

Hoffman winning would help Rubio emensely and with the other conservative/constitution candidates
 

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that doug hoffman race is interesting to say the least - it could backfire and split the Republican party.

on the other hand , the GOP grassroots might be taking back their party from the moderates.

either way - its definitely a race to watch. its got an influence Stateside out of all proportion to the actual political power involved.
 

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To hear Newr Gingrich on the radio defending the party candidate today was laughable. He and his ilk are the problem and they will be flushed out
are you serious? newt has backed the GOP candidate?

jaysus -thats his reputation fubared in grassroot conservative circles.
 

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It is the best oppurtunity even of destroying the old trick of "don't vote for the best candidate as it is giving the seat to the democrat"

If the democrat gets it then it is not the end of the world. The election will be 1 year away for the full term.

As long as he beats the RINO that is the important thing.

Newt Gingrich is just another puppet. His job will be to replace Obama. He is anmost as odius as Rudy Guiliani. I would take Obama over him anyday. At least Obama did not divorce his wife when she was in hospital with cancer.

Newt is running

A Newt Gingrich run in 2012? Quite possible but... | Top of the Ticket | Los Angeles Times

Hopefully conservatives are waking up at last
 

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Fred Thompson, Bachman, Palin, Dick Armey, Pawlenty are behind Hoffman.

Even if Hofman and Dede loose, the GOP is on notice that leftist democrats endorsed by branches of ACORN are not acceptable.

Even then, Hoffman will win name recognition that will probably help him win the general election next year (right now they are competing for the remainder of the term on a vacated seat).
And if he wins, well then, Palin and the conservative movement are in ascendancy, and off to the next local congressional race.

Overall its a win win situation for the conservatives to support Hoffman (in my opinion)
 

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Fred Thompson, Bachman, Palin, Dick Armey, Pawlenty are behind Hoffman.

Even if Hofman and Dede loose, the GOP is on notice that leftist democrats endorsed by branches of ACORN are not acceptable.

Even then, Hoffman will win name recognition that will probably help him win the general election next year (right now they are competing for the remainder of the term on a vacated seat).
And if he wins, well then, Palin and the conservative movement are in ascendancy, and off to the next local congressional race.

Overall its a win win situation for the conservatives to support Hoffman (in my opinion)
Thats as may be but in terms of National spread if you expung the moderates from the republican party or worse cause a split you will guarantee Democratic control of Congress and the presidency indefinately. The freepers (conservative movement) just do not have the numbers. Bush had to carry a huge number of moderates with him and he had bloated patriotism to hide behind and still barely got relected.

You should be careful what you wish for.
 

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This is a perfect example of the spin or misunderstanding of American politics.

It is the nonsense that this election could dispell forever. The conservatives are in the majority but the scare tactic used is the boogieman of giving the seat to democrats.

In this instance the conservatives would rather see the dem elected than Dede. This sow is worse than any democrat so they are voting their convictions. Hopefully conservative democrats will join them and vote for Hoffman.

This race is really a race between Newt, SadPusNoJaw, Judy Ruiliani, Songbird on one side and Palin, Buchannan, the Paulites and the teabaggers on the other side.

A victory for the Constitutionalists here will be "the shot heard around the World"


Anone the believes that the majority of democrats want socialised medicine, cap and trade and immigration in the midst of a depression are dreaming.

They need look no further than Virginia race to see the drubbing BO will be given there.


I expect Hoffman to succeed and then I expect Gary Johnson to announce he is runningin 2012. Ron Paul then will most likely not run but instead Johnson would announce that he would be the Secretary of the Treasury.

So roll on Tuesday.
 

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It boggles the mind how radical leftist Dierdre Scozzafava’s is even a Republican, let alone the GOP candidate in the NY-23 special election. :confused:
 

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Man, you conservatives really go for the hyperbole in a big way

"America is in trouble," Thompson says casting the race in grand terms. "When your grandchildren ask you why you didn't do something , be able to tell them you voted for Doug Hoffman."
Fred in NY-23 - Ben Smith - POLITICO.com
 

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Rush Limbaugh livid: GOP has a death wish

I am a fan of Rush Limbaugh but he is improving.

He makes a good point here. The fruitcakes did not form a new party, they just took over the democrat party. Most democrats are against what Obama is doing and that is why he will be a lame duck in a year and just like Carter be gone soon after
 

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Republican vs. Conservative - WSJ.com

According to the WSJ there are 2 polls that actually show Hoffman in the lead. These are disputed because the sample size is small and the companies employed were hired by the Hoffman campaign.

There may not be any new polls. If Hoffman is seen to be ahead of Dede then he has a good chance Tuesday
 

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The bombshell has finally landed.

The DailyKos poll shows Hoffman just 1% behind the democrat and well ahead of the republican. Now the leadership are in a panic and are trying to claim Hoffman as a damage control tactic.

It will not work. There will be a Paulite/Teabagger challenging every seat to sweep the whole lot of them. democrats and republicans have got to go

In shift, GOP leaders embrace Hoffman - Alex Isenstadt and Josh Kraushaar - POLITICO.com
 

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He, he.. Palin is the great uniter.. uniting the republican conservatives and the independents.
I think the way the Republican Party will end up after she is done is with a core of fiscal conservatism, where those not in agreement are flushed out, and a 'big tent' for social issues were social liberals are tolerated.
Smaller government, less taxes, less government, more freedom. Go Sarah! (and Hoffman :) )
 

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She is not my favourite but one thing has to be admitted. She who is supposed to be stupid is the big winner and Gingrich who is supposed to be a genius is a very big loser.

I would go as far as to say he can forget about 2012
 


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