Can Luke "Ming" Flanagan win a Seat in 2011

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Just a few interesting things that have come to light about this candidates prospects in the last few days:

His facebook page was only set up on November 24th but alreday has well over 600 supporters:
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The Irish Independent are even giving him a chance:
Such is the level of discontent with conventional politics that senior political strategists even believe that the colourful Independent Luke 'Ming' Flanagan could win a seat in Roscommon-South Leitrim.
John Drennan: Sinn Fein's by-election win heralds surge to left - John Drennan, Columnists - Independent.ie

He seems to have strong Libertarian views in supporting local industry, opposing the bank bailout and his stance on legalising drugs. All commendable policies.

Just wondering what people on the ground in the constituency think of his chances?
 


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Its time for self-servers like Flanagan to be taken down by the electorate. ************************ sake, whole sections of our society have been cast into a poverty trap which they will never escape, work or not. Yet we still have whiners like Flanagan who never grew up beyond fifteen unable to concern themselves with anything other than where their next fix is coming from. Selfish, tiresome ************************-wit that man.
 
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Its time for self-servers like Flanagan to be taken down by the electorate. ************************ sake, whole sections of our society have been cast into a poverty trap which they will never escape, work or not. Yet we still have whiners like Flanagan who never grew up beyond fifteen unable to concern themselves with anything other than where their next fix is coming from. Selfish, tiresome ************************-wit that man.
Actually, as far as I can tell he is EXACTLY the kind of politician we need. No time for bs or standing on ceremony and has the courage to stand up for what he believes and the intelligence to justify his beliefs.

Even when it comes to the turf cutting debate on primetime som time ago he was incredibly articulate and well informed, making the opposing lady look ridiculous so he's not just a one issue candidate.

If we had more people like Flanagan in the dail, this would be a far better country.
 

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In favour of legalising drugs? That alone should be enough to prevent him from winning if his opponents have any cop-on.
 

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In favour of legalising drugs? That alone should be enough to prevent him from winning if his opponents have any cop-on.

The big mistake most people make is the assumption that making drugs illegal limits use and crime.
On the contrary by banning drugs you create a black market for crime lords, who get addicts to steal by proxy for them. The majority of deaths are caused by damaging the purity of the drugs with dangerous substances in order to bulk the merchandise. The war on drugs cannot be won by banning them, there is simply too much money to be made from the black market.


By legalising you would have no black market for drugs, far less crime and no incentive for the drug pushers to target children and adolescents with their wares.

There is no reason that drugs should not be regulated like alcohol or tobacco other than the moral high ground that creates a black market in which crime flourishes.
 

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He'll be hated by P.ie's neo-con wing, but he's very obviously intelligent, articulate, and he's not afraid to express his opinions even when he's aware they might alienate potential voters.
Imagine that, being able to vote for or against someone on the basis of their opinions! Who could tell us Cowen's or Bertie's opinion on anything? Surely if a generation of candidates like Flanagan emerge, its a huge development in Irish democracy?
 

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Its time for self-servers like Flanagan to be taken down by the electorate. ************************ sake, whole sections of our society have been cast into a poverty trap which they will never escape, work or not. Yet we still have whiners like Flanagan who never grew up beyond fifteen unable to concern themselves with anything other than where their next fix is coming from. Selfish, tiresome ************************-wit that man.
That's crazy talk mr C.
he is a man of honour and ability with real ideas and is capable of independent thought, very willing to stand up to vested interests and the bully boy FFers and has the best interest oh his constituents at heart.
The only downside to him that I would see to his becoming a TD is that he is alone and therefore potentially less powerful in the next Dail where there is a probable large majority for FG/L coalition.
 

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The big mistake most people make is the assumption that making drugs illegal limits use and crime.
On the contrary by banning drugs you create a black market for crime lords, who get addicts to steal by proxy for them. The majority of deaths are caused by damaging the purity of the drugs with dangerous substances in order to bulk the merchandise. The war on drugs cannot be won by banning them, there is simply too much money to be made from the black market.


By legalising you would have no black market for drugs, far less crime and no incentive for the drug pushers to target children and adolescents with their wares.

There is no reason that drugs should not be regulated like alcohol or tobacco other than the moral high ground that creates a black market in which crime flourishes.
Agreed, but logic from a tea partier does not compute :oops:
 

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Fair play to him if he decides to run.

A fecking mentally retarded monkey would probably be a better bet in government compared to half the tools in there at the moment.
 

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The big mistake most people make is the assumption that making drugs illegal limits use and crime.
On the contrary by banning drugs you create a black market for crime lords, who get addicts to steal by proxy for them. The majority of deaths are caused by damaging the purity of the drugs with dangerous substances in order to bulk the merchandise. The war on drugs cannot be won by banning them, there is simply too much money to be made from the black market.


By legalising you would have no black market for drugs, far less crime and no incentive for the drug pushers to target children and adolescents with their wares.

There is no reason that drugs should not be regulated like alcohol or tobacco other than the moral high ground that creates a black market in which crime flourishes.
If the punishments were severe enough, the fact that drugs are illegal would prevent their distribution and use. An extreme example of this is seen in China where drug dealers are executed. Does China have a drugs problem? No.
 

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Agreed, but logic from a tea partier does not compute :oops:
The mistake most people make is that they do not realise that most "Tea Partiers" are Libertarians, legalising drugs is one of the top libertairian policies. It is the establishment GOP that want to prevent legislation against legalising them.
 

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Collina, your views on LMF seem not to have taken into account his political career of the past six years. He has gained a lot of support and admiration for his views across the board, and is a far cry from the single-issue candidate that you seem so quick to demonise.

Incidentally, it could be argued that politics in the constituency (as elsewhere) has for the past 15 years been a devastatingly single-issue affair - the issue being property development. At the last local elections in Roscommon, I can remember looking at the ballot paper in despair. Out of roughly 12 or 13 candidates, only 3 listed their occupation as not either farmer or auctioneer. I had to vote for three people virtually unknown to me solely on the basis that they might not have a direct financial interest in rezoning.

Crucial for LMF might be heavy "get out the vote" campaign that targets younger people and students registered to vote in the constituency though living in Dublin or Galway.
 

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The mistake most people make is that they do not realise that most "Tea Partiers" are Libertarians, legalising drugs is one of the top libertairian policies. It is the establishment GOP that want to prevent legislation against legalising them.
And I am 90% libertarian myself but there are a lot of crazy illogical parts to tea party phenomenon. Palin, need I say more. Anyway don't want to derail the thread.:)
 

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If the punishments were severe enough, the fact that drugs are illegal would prevent their distribution and use. An extreme example of this is seen in China where drug dealers are executed. Does China have a drugs problem? No.
Well obviously they do...otherwise they wouldn't have drug dealers.
 

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600 friends on facebook does not constitute support. They could be pot head from anywhere in our Technicolor Universe... Man.

I have heard him speak and yes, he comes across well. But will he win a seat?
No way, no how.
 

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He seems to talk a lot of common sense and have some real conviction. Something that 95% of politicians dont have. I wish him well !

I wonder if dope was legalised here how much tourism would increase. There is tax that could reap huge cash benefits !
 
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In favour of legalising drugs? That alone should be enough to prevent him from winning if his opponents have any cop-on.
Why? Every time someone takes him on on the issue he makes them look silly.
Remember the time he was discussing the headshop ban (after the fact) on Newstalk and he finished the argument dead by stating that these drugs were being advertised on newstalks own website?
 

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Collina, your views on LMF seem not to have taken into account his political career of the past six years. He has gained a lot of support and admiration for his views across the board, and is a far cry from the single-issue candidate that you seem so quick to demonise.

Incidentally, it could be argued that politics in the constituency (as elsewhere) has for the past 15 years been a devastatingly single-issue affair - the issue being property development. At the last local elections in Roscommon, I can remember looking at the ballot paper in despair. Out of roughly 12 or 13 candidates, only 3 listed their occupation as not either farmer or auctioneer. I had to vote for three people virtually unknown to me solely on the basis that they might not have a direct financial interest in rezoning.

Crucial for LMF might be heavy "get out the vote" campaign that targets younger people and students registered to vote in the constituency though living in Dublin or Galway.
Disgusting. Auctioneers or anyone involved in development should have to sell all their business interests before allowed to sit in their TDs seat or council seat etc.
All interests should be detailed and the party they were sold to made part of record etc.
Makes my blood boil when the Sindo promotes Marc Mcsharry as the future taoiseach. Blatant cronyism and gombeenism. Will we never learn?
Auctioneering and banking are what the intellectual runt of the litter was pushed into by gombeen familys.
 


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