Canadian judge finds Palestinian man not guilty of raping wife - "because he believed he could have sex with his wife whenever he wanted"

Mick Mac

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Hush for a moment and listen to the shrieks of outrage coming from our feminists...oh wait, they're too busy attacking Ronan Mullens...

I wonder does Ireland-apologist in chief, Ivana Bacik, have anything to say to Justin Trudeau about this?
I can't stand Mullen and he should be on th receiving end but trust me if Ronan Mullen gets arrested abroad exercising his democratic right everyone who is now attacking will:
No longer be interested in his political beliefs.
Campaign for his home coming and monitor the legal proceedings like hawks.
 


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This judgement actually justifies rape of women in certain circumstances. Even more worrying, the justification is done under the law of a western country.

In any case, it threatens much more than the view of a random radio broadcaster. So, if this did happen in Ireland, I would hope there would be uproar.

If Irish people did stay quiet, then it would be due to a combination of:
1. Fear of being labelled (racist and islamophobic)
2. Convincing themselves that this is just a dangerous judgement for Islamic women and not me.
3. Not being overly concerned about rape crime or criminal law in general

The people who definitely would speak out are those that fear the wider implications of this judgement, i.e. that the law of the country has been eroded and replaced with something much worse or that there are truly separate populations within the country and therefore two systems of law operating.
 

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Did you not read this story, the Muslim man who raped his wife was found not guilty of raping his wife because he didn't consider it to be rape because his religion tells him that he can have sex with her whenever he wants. Why drag Christianity into it, it's got nothing to do with this case.
Are we talking about the same case?
 

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This judgement actually justifies rape of women in certain circumstances. Even more worrying, the justification is done under the law of a western country.

In any case, it threatens much more than the view of a random radio broadcaster. So, if this did happen in Ireland, I would hope there would be uproar.

If Irish people did stay quiet, then it would be due to a combination of:
1. Fear of being labelled (racist and islamophobic)
2. Convincing themselves that this is just a dangerous judgement for Islamic women and not me.
3. Not being overly concerned about rape crime or criminal law in general

The people who definitely would speak out are those that fear the wider implications of this judgement, i.e. that the law of the country has been eroded and replaced with something much worse or that there are truly separate populations within the country and therefore two systems of law operating.
Yet the Irish courts rejected outright a Muslim man's right to multiple wives under his religion. So that's not really true, is it?
 

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Piss off to whatever racist hole you crawled out of.

Why are you putting up an article about something far away here?
Canada is a common law jurisdiction just like Ireland. We don't want to see the same copied over here.
 

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I'm not sure what relevance the chaps nationality is to the story. It's an odd decision with massive potential ramifications.
The judgement was partially based on his Nationality. Or more correctly, his culture.
 

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Carrolyn Johnston, acting executive director of the Ottawa Coalition to End Violence Against Women, said the ruling reflects myths about sexual assault in our society.
So the wider societal norms might have a bearing. Not just blaming a religion or such crap. Norms like Kuwait where he grew up not having a marital rape as a crime, or domestic violence or sexual harassment.

Im not going to see if it's illegal in Palestine. Please, prove my suspicion wrong.

So the background he grew up in likely had an affect but only if it were in out society. If it were in another society that would be racist and the social media Socialists will be along to kick you in the nuts for thinking martial rape should be a crime in all countries. If you want them to put you on ignore you could also suggest that people who push for martial rape never to be a crime should be named as definitely enemies of the left.

It'll piss them off no end if you do that and in the end they might become good Socialists so it's worth it.
 

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Canada is a common law jurisdiction just like Ireland. We don't want to see the same copied over here.
That's racist talk.
 

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Yet the Irish courts rejected outright a Muslim man's right to multiple wives under his religion. So that's not really true, is it?
It is true that I have not seen any double standard legal judgements like this in Ireland. I was exploring a "what if" scenario and pointing out the various positions that I think people would take and why. It may have been a very unrealistic scenario in your mind. Was it ?
 

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The heading is misleading, whether that is deliberate or not I don't know. He is not a Canadian man. It's a bit like the Irish media referring to foreign gangs operating in Ireland as Dublin or Cork men, or wherever they happen to be operating, leaving out any mention of them being Romanian or whatever nationality they happen to be.
 

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The heading is misleading, whether that is deliberate or not I don't know. He is not a Canadian man. It's a bit like the Irish media referring to foreign gangs operating in Ireland as Dublin or Cork men, or wherever they happen to be operating, leaving out any mention of them being Romanian or whatever nationality they happen to be.
That's the part you think is misleading?
 

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Hush for a moment and listen to the shrieks of outrage coming from our feminists...oh wait, they're too busy attacking Ronan Mullens...

I wonder does Ireland-apologist in chief, Ivana Bacik, have anything to say to Justin Trudeau about this?

Maybe she has no idea of this case in a Canadian court. Like 99.9% of this country.
 

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The judge seems to have made a ruling that's very ignorant of both precedent and the law.
When you find yourself making a comment like this about an actual judge, ruling on a case you've read about in a single news article online, then there's probably something about the case that you've misunderstood.
 

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That's the part you think is misleading?
What part do you think is misleading? A Muslim man, in this day and age, thinks it's perfectly OK to rape his wife. That should set alarm bells ringing for everyone. The man raped his wife and he should be in prison.
 

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Well, just one from your perspective, let's be honest.
But are you any different.

Your only policing perceived or actual racism.

This is not a biological issue. It's the Social system the man grew up under.

It's a backwards social model though it's not doomed to be that way. We had a backwards society here before but some people allowed themselves the right to call out that Social model and in the end it was improved.

That man came from a country with a backwards social model.

I am sure you agree.
 

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Maybe she has no idea of this case in a Canadian court. Like 99.9% of this country.
Careful now, let's not prejudice the man in this case.

Let's not rush to judgement. Let's not do anything at all.
 


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