Cardinal Pell, Vatican Treasurer, charged with sex offences

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https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/asia-pacific/top-papal-adviser-george-pell-charged-with-sexual-assault-1.3137689

1. That was all a long time ago.

2. He's very old now and is taking doctors' advice.

3. Extradition might be an issue

4. He's very ill, but well able to run the vatican's finances.... :shock2:




He faces “multiple charges in respect of historic sexual offences” from multiple complainants, said police in the Australian state of Victoria, where Mr Pell (76) was a country priest in the 1970s.
The police did not specify the charges against the cardinal, nor the ages of the alleged victims nor when the crimes were alleged to have occurred.
The Australian Catholic Church said in a statement that Mr Pell strenuously denied the charges and planned to return to Australia to “clear his name”.
“He said he is looking forward to his day in court and will defend the charges vigorously,” the statement said. It also said his doctors would advise on his travel arrangements.
The cardinal angered victims at a government inquiry into institutional child abuse in Australia last year by saying he was too sick to fly home, testifying instead from Rome. He was ordered to appear before Melbourne Magistrates Court on July 18th. The cardinal was due to make a statement at the Vatican later on Thursday.
The latest development in the long-running case piled pressure on the pope to make good on promises to sack bishops found guilty of abuse, or of covering it up.
[h=4]Justice[/h]Pope Francis told reporters last year he would wait until Australian justice took its course before taking a position the case, and that his financial controller since 2014 should not undergo trial by media.
 


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Time for this again?
Seems like it may have helped ;)

[video=youtube;Ot7_9m5TTBQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot7_9m5TTBQ[/video]
 

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1. That was all a long time ago.

2. He's very old now and is taking doctors' advice.

3. Extradition might be an issue

4. He's very ill, but well able to run the vatican's finances.... :shock2:
I don't know whether he is guilty or not but here are some facts:
1. The allegation is from decades ago and has been filed for two years though recently leaked to the media. Pell denies the charges.
2. He's 76 but he is going home with increased resolve to face the charges
3. It isn't because he is going of his own accord
4. He had an illness at the time. He is taking a leave of absence now from his job to which he hopes to return.
Video stream press conference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXBi0IyTs6U
 
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It's wrong to prejudge a case.

As the Holy Bible says, "The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him".(Proverbs 18:17)
 

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It's wrong to prejudge a case.

As the Holy Bible says, "The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him".(Proverbs 18:17)
Indeed.

The accuser and the accused are both entitled to legal due process, above all else.

If his words are accurately reported, then his intention to travel to Australia to face these allegations are welcome.
 

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He should get a fair trial. If he is guilty then stick him away with the rest of the queers, and if he is innocent then good luck to him.
 

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If the cops were allowed into the Vatican many more heads would roll I suspect.
 

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He should get a fair trial. If he is guilty then stick him away with the rest of the queers, and if he is innocent then good luck to him.
There are cases in the media every day in this country of fathers convicted for abusing daughters. It has nothing to do with homosexuality.
 

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He is innocent until proven not/ guilty.


https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/jun/29/george-pell-profile-the-popes-australian-hardman-faces-the-fight-of-his-life


Strange that the career of a man who would climb so far and so fast was marked early on by such a want of curiosity. He would explain to Australia’s royal commission into institutional responses to child sexual abuse: “It was a sad story and of not much interest to me.”
He sat on a committee that transferred Father Gerard Ridsdale from parish to parish. The crimes of this vicious paedophile were notorious in Ballarat, known to the bishop and familiar to other members of the committee. But by his own account, Pell never asked why this priest was always on the move. ...

 
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Indeed.

The accuser and the accused are both entitled to legal due process, above all else.

If his words are accurately reported, then his intention to travel to Australia to face these allegations are welcome.
Absolutely.
 

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Indeed.

The accuser and the accused are both entitled to legal due process, above all else.

If his words are accurately reported, then his intention to travel to Australia to face these allegations are welcome.
Don't worry, he will get sick and his doctor will advise him against travel. Have you not read the script?
 
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I agree but, to be honest, I'm not sure it will be possible for him to get a fair trial.

Probably not; even if he is personally innocent, his actions to protect church property against actually-abused claimants and to move abusive priests around, will all sound bad in court.
 

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Probably not; even if he is personally innocent, his actions to protect church property against actually-abused claimants and to move abusive priests around, will all sound bad in court.

...after all, we christians have always believed that property is much more important than people and their souls, right?
 

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Time for this again?
Seems like it may have helped ;)

[video=youtube;Ot7_9m5TTBQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot7_9m5TTBQ[/video]
Interesting you follow the goings on of Australia in Bogistan. Were you one of the mob who defiled Catholic Church property in Dublin recently? If not, why not? The video is about your level.

That is a great song. It's funny, witty but angry.
The video is about your level. This is supposed to be a political site, not 4 chan. I haven't watched the video btw as this is supposed to be politicis not juvenile 4chan shtty

If the cops were allowed into the Vatican many more heads would roll I suspect.
On what grounds do you suspect? Are you a homosexual?

The big problem with Pell and I have met him, is he was picked from the choir. The Catholic Church is a geronotcracy and a younger Pell was picked to "study" in Rome as the Mob bosses thought he was bright etc. At least in the Mafia/PIRA, you have to earn your bones, go out and whack someone. The Catholic Church with its Mason like secrecy/Omerta and its opaqueness is wide open to the eloquent fool and I've met plenty of them priests a plenty who should be on the business end of baseball bats.
Most bishops or top brass who have doctorates are from is like the Gregorian Institute that are just filtering mechanisms to pick out the likely lads. Most of the PhDs on esoteric theological issues have little if any market value.
Why does it take sop long to become a Jesuit? To say a bunch of rites most followers have not a clue about? Or a filtering mechanism
 

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Pell is a two faced lying ****************************** who should be held to account for the young lives destroyed by his facilitating their abusers. Anyone who supports this excuse for a human being should be ashamed and be prepared to defend the rape of children in the name of their religious cult.
 


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