Carol Nolan quits Sinn Fein after she opposed party's policy on abortion

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Politicians work for us not the other way around....

We made a decision now they need to get on with it.......if they find they are unable they should follow Nolans example and stand down....
Actually...who they work for depends.....FG work for their owners.....FF work for whoever will buy them....SF work for those that we will never be told about, but who have not gone away, ya know.....
 


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Actually...who they work for depends.....FG work for their owners.....FF work for whoever will buy them....SF work for those that we will never be told about, but who have not gone away, ya know.....
Anal-iser works to spread the dumb far and wide, for free.

Just as well, because no one would pay him for his tripe.
 

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Females in charge means it’s a threat to freedom and democracy- woman hater right there-
Name caller right there! Makes for a poor argument. I love women.

Don't know if I 'hate' anyone , if I do I certainly dont make the decision based on gender.
 

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Apart from the totalitarianism it raises the raises a question with regard to SF's seriousness with regard to their intent to being in government. No other party can be so dictatorial because they know it would alienate a section of their voter base but SF feels they can afford the loss. Maybe they just like being in opposition and want to keep it that way?
 

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So she's giving two fingers to the electorate. Hope it's the end of her political career.
The woman has principles unlike Mary Lou and co.

I hope she gets reelected and blocks a SF seat in her constituency. SF's refusal to accept that their politicians should have been free to vote with their consciences on this issue was very stasi like and deserves punishment and the whole country will benefit from having a politician who stands up for what she believes in even if it damages her career.
 

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SF has got the exact right thing in Mary Lou, because she is the one that will take the middle class women with her.

That geometric bob alone is a vote winner.

Adams and McGuinness played the long game, and they played it so well, it will take another generation before people actually realise what they achieved.
I think many of us realise what they achieved,peace.All they had to do was stop planting bombs,stop taking people from their homes and murdering them,recognise the border,the armies,the police,the courts and the will of the people in both states.

The were also correct to abandon the bogus claim on Northern Ireland,once all that happened peace was the logical result and for all that they must be congratulated and it is just a pity they did not realise the futility of the campaign of murder and terror a bit sooner but better late than never.
 

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I think many of us realise what they achieved,peace.All they had to do was stop planting bombs,stop taking people from their homes and murdering them,recognise the border,the armies,the police,the courts and the will of the people in both states.

The were also correct to abandon the bogus claim on Northern Ireland,once all that happened peace was the logical result and for all that they must be congratulated and it is just a pity they did not realise the futility of the campaign of murder and terror a bit sooner but better late than never.
I can imagine you typing that up, thinking you sound wise and detached....
 

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Apart from the totalitarianism it raises the raises a question with regard to SF's seriousness with regard to their intent to being in government. No other party can be so dictatorial because they know it would alienate a section of their voter base but SF feels they can afford the loss. Maybe they just like being in opposition and want to keep it that way?
Are you really that stupid? There were speakers on both sides of the debate. They had a democratic vote and Ms Nolan lost. She has decided to leave the party. End of story.
 

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The woman has principles unlike Mary Lou and co.

I hope she gets reelected and blocks a SF seat in her constituency. SF's refusal to accept that their politicians should have been free to vote with their consciences on this issue was very stasi like and deserves punishment and the whole country will benefit from having a politician who stands up for what she believes in even if it damages her career.
Hard to believe anyone is this dumb.
 

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SF is a 'modern' Stalinist totalitarian party that demands all it's members think the same grey socialist doctrine that made the communist block such and awful place to live.

Only it's dumb apparachiks fail to see through the hypocritical 'Choice' bull.sh.t.
Under SF it is your human right to 'Choose to kill' . But to 'Refuse to kill' is undemocratic and a reason for expulsion from the party to Siberia!

What faces those who refuse to implement abortion in society one can only wonder. How will they be punished for offences against 'democracy'!

They are a now officially a totalitarian, socialist, sectarian anti-catholic party run by a female and eunuch composed Central committee where freedom of opinion and thought is frowned upon.

A dangerous threat to freedom of thought and democracy if left unchallenged.
Is there a full moon tonight?
 

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Trump has said that he is reforming that law, but in a manner to cut down incentivization of people who send their children to illegally enter the USA, rather than use legal crossing points.
 

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Carol Nolan quits Sinn Fein after she opposed party's policy on abortion

https://www.independent.ie/irish-ne...posed-partys-policy-on-abortion-37027339.html

She's quoted as saying "Every TD in Leinster House is directly responsible for the laws that they enact, if a TD votes for abortion they are responsible for all abortions that happen in this state".

"I do not want to have any hand, act or part in bringing about the end to the life of an unborn child, the most vulnerable in our society."

She's a hero in my book and also just secured her seat in Offaly/Laois too. It'll be interesting to see who SF will run for that seat. Will she join FF after the next election? Time for a shake-up in FF leadership to recruit Ms. Nolan and her likes to the FF fold. Or perhaps she should join Renua altogether and win them their first seat in Dail Eireann? John Leahy could make himself the sacrificial lamb.

She also added: "It is not for politicians or society in general to decide who lives or dies".

I will do whatever I can to help get Carol re-elected in the next General Election.
And not one mention from her of the fact that the voters actually approved the referendum 66% to 33%. Apparently that doesn't count - but the of course she actually voted against the referendum being held, didn't she?

Nolan's departure is predictable and of little significance - her seat was doomed anyway, there being no chance of 2 SF seats in the reunified 5-seater. What will be interesting is how they manage the Toibin situation - he's one of their few heavy hitters and has a guaranteed that he would probably hold (and they would lose) as an independent.
 

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They elected themselves out of existence years ago and told members to help out the Peace-Process in any way they could-
No they didn’t tell members any such thing. Most IRA went home and didn’t join SF.

Wrt elections and respect of the voters, only 32% of SF supporters in the north are in favour of liberalising abortion. You will see in the next northern elections the consequences of your AC diktats in order to be a populist party in the south.
 

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No they didn’t tell members any such thing. Most IRA went home and didn’t join SF.

Wrt elections and respect of the voters, only 32% of SF supporters in the north are in favour of liberalising abortion. You will see in the next northern elections the consequences of your AC diktats in order to be a populist party in the south.
You lost badly , your predictions like that of the rest of your ilk were as out of touch as it is possible to be and you are just as out of touch with what northern nationalists think and how they will vote . Do us and yourself a favour and find some dark corner to hide in while you come to terms with modern life , a lot of old confessionals not been used, they would be ideal .
 

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You lost badly , your predictions like that of the rest of your ilk were as out of touch as it is possible to be and you are just as out of touch with what northern nationalists think and how they will vote . Do us and yourself a favour and find some dark corner to hide in while you come to terms with modern life , a lot of old confessionals not been used, they would be ideal .
Sweetheart, I predicted the correct result. I have said so for a long time, once it goes to the vote you’ll vote for abortion enmasse.

SF are going to be taught a lesson in the next northern elections. We don’t like baby killing up north.
 
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