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'Cash for gold' and burglary linked?


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Several people have mentioned to me in recent weeks their concern about the reported increase in break-ins in recent months where only gold jewellery has been taken.
Do all the cash-for-gold schemes offer a route for selling stolen goods that is simply too easy with no questions asked, just pop it in the pre-paid envelope.
Should there be some regulation of these schemes e.g. payment into bank account, photographic I.D. or other such ideas.
I have been told but have not had it confirmed that there are plans to tighten things up in this area the UK.
 

ManOfReason

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Here is another link: the number of burglaries and the lack of effort put into investigating them - with a corollary being the few days/weeks a serial burglary will serve for each burglary.
 

EUrJokingMeRight

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Cash for gold is better than cash for debt. Both systems are open to abuse, and indeed, regularly are...

Passport should be supplied with each transaction and every shop should have entry and exit cameras over the front door.

Shops should be forced to hold items for three months before processing, though if gold spikes you can bet your bottom dollar this will not happen!
 

Mossy Heneberry

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I've know several people whose houses were broken into in recent months. One of their main cripes, is the attitude of the Gardaí involved in investigate the break ins,they don't seem to give a shíte. I'm speaking from experience myself.

It seems that burglaries are not as important as minor traffic offences.
 

cricket

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Few simple procedures should do much to help:
1. Each item presented to be indexed, with photographic id, PPS no. and utility bill.
2. All records to be maintained for 1 year.
3. Payment to presenter by cheque only.
4. National accessible record of those not allowed to engage in business ( criminal record for burglary or fraud ).
5. Close any outlet not complying.
 

Dorris

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I've know several people whose houses were broken into in recent months. One of their main cripes, is the attitude of the Gardaí involved in investigate the break ins,they don't seem to give a shíte. I'm speaking from experience myself.

It seems that burglaries are not as important as minor traffic offences.

Minor traffic offences can be pinned down straight away, no nonexistent investigatory powers are used in the making of the case!!
 

Neutron

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I've know several people whose houses were broken into in recent months. One of their main cripes, is the attitude of the Gardaí involved in investigate the break ins,they don't seem to give a shíte. I'm speaking from experience myself.

It seems that burglaries are not as important as minor traffic offences.
Revenue for the state in minor traffic offences.
 
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I've know several people whose houses were broken into in recent months. One of their main cripes, is the attitude of the Gardaí involved in investigate the break ins,they don't seem to give a shíte. I'm speaking from experience myself.

It seems that burglaries are not as important as minor traffic offences.
the only place I see guards now is in their local Spar. While I can see that its difficult to follow up a burglary, the guards do shag all when it comes to being visible about he community. If watching TV3 is anything to go by, private cctv is the way to go. maybe the beards can invest in that?
 

hammer

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Good job Fine Gael are pumping money into rural Garda stations to meet the rise in crime, oh wait....
Garda station at every corner required in your world :)

BTW...........sorry to hear about your recent news :(
 

DeputyEdo

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I've know several people whose houses were broken into in recent months. One of their main cripes, is the attitude of the Gardaí involved in investigate the break ins,they don't seem to give a shíte. I'm speaking from experience myself.

It seems that burglaries are not as important as minor traffic offences.
Burglaries don't bring in revenue.....minor traffic offences do.
It's all about the money (as the lady once sang)
 

jdaly

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I've know several people whose houses were broken into in recent months. One of their main cripes, is the attitude of the Gardaí involved in investigate the break ins,they don't seem to give a shíte. I'm speaking from experience myself.

It seems that burglaries are not as important as minor traffic offences.
and don't forget that not all burglaries are burglaries, some are insurance scams.
 

Knapaghbeg

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Why Cash for gold?

Why not a lodgement to a bank account for gold with a copy of the lodgement sent to the Gardai?
 

Mossy Heneberry

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Why Cash for gold?

Why not a lodgement to a bank account for gold with a copy of the lodgement sent to the Gardai?
Why should I have to notify the gardaí about my private business? The only way to deal with burglaries is for the Gardaí to take them serious and get their finger out. Bringing in more rules and regulations and treating everyone who sell their gold as a potential criminal is immoral and not how a society should work.
 

Knapaghbeg

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Why should I have to notify the gardaí about my private business? The only way to deal with burglaries is for the Gardaí to take them serious and get their finger out. Bringing in more rules and regulations and treating everyone who sell their gold as a potential criminal is immoral and not how a society should work.

The Revenue Commissioners require many businesses to lodge all deposits and to make all payments from a bank account. There are obvious reasons for doing this.
 

cricket

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Not more rules and regulations.

The best thing would be for the shop to delay payment of up to 24hr or 48hr period after gold is accepted.
Not much good to someone who's been away for a few days while house is being burgled. The regulations around opening a bank account do much to prevent money laundering but are not a deterrent to innocent people.
 
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