Castlepollard Exclusion From Commission on Mother and Baby Homes INQUIRY. (Second Thread)

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Ambush by the Government to push through discriminatory Adoption Bill...


Friday, June 14, 2019 - 12:00 AM


Claire McGettrick


While we in Adoption Rights Alliance (ARA) welcome the plans to remove some of the deeply offensive elements of the bill, the proposal to contact every natural parent when adopted people seek information about themselves is equally discriminatory, and abhorrent to the people who are supposed to benefit from it.*** [see asterisked paragraph below]

... ***By way of example, for adopted people, the sense of loss can run deep. Sometimes, it’s safer to reject before you are rejected yourself. We are familiar with this phenomenon, as ARA has heard testimony from adopted people for years.



Starry: ^^^ ^^^ So, painfully true, despairing, heartbreakingly sad.



Claire McGettrick:

… Susan Lohan, successfully argued that registrants who chose a ‘no-contact’ preference could also have the option to be notified if another party registered.

Natural mothers would have sought confidentiality from Irish society, which judged them harshly, but not from their own children.


Starry: ^^^ ^^^ Irish First Mothers Founder Kathy McMahon (dec) has stated same - these were forced / coerced adoptions, the mothers were told to never make contact with their children, to get on with their lives. It was Irish society that the mothers needed protection from (the curtain twitchers).


Claire McGettrick said they weren't even informed that the Adoption (Information and Tracing) Bill 2016 would progress to Seanad Committee stage this week. (n)(n)(n)


I feel it was an ambush by the Government to push through this discriminatory Bill. It requires public consultation.




'Claire McGettrick is an Irish Research Council postgraduate scholar at the School of Sociology in University College Dublin, and is co-founder of Adoption Rights Alliance and Justice for Magdalenes.'
 
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Legal Expert in Information Law, including the Irish Council for Civil Liberties, say proposed Adoption Legislation is not fit for purpose

Friday, June 14, 2019 - 06:30 AM



By Conall Ó Fátharta



Solicitor Fred Logue of FP Logue, Specialist in Information Law:




“Adoptees have a fundamental EU-law right of access to their personal data. Any request for access must be answered within a month by Tusla as data controller. There are parallel administrative and judicial remedies via the data protection commission and the courts for those who are dissatisfied with the response.”

... the legislation “seems to ignore the legal position that a public authority cannot blindly follow national law that conflicts with EU law and actually has to disapply those conflicting laws giving full effect to EU law”.


He added that, in his view, it is not legally possible for the AAI to act as a decision maker in respect of access requests since this would encroach on the responsibilities of the data controller and on the jurisdiction of the Data Protection Commission and the courts to handle complaints concerning access to personal data.
 

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James Gallen Retweeted
Conor O'Mahony‏ @ConorUCCLaw Jun 13
Replying to @maireadenright @maeveorourke


Maeve (and you) are absolutely correct on this, and the Oireachtas has been aware of this since 2015, when I testified on this exact point:
. If the Constitution is still being cited as a barrier, it's plain disingenuous.





'Dr Conor O'Mahony Speaks at Adoption Information Law Committee Stage'



Supreme Court case IO'T v B; 3 April 1988 ~





Key Point on Matters of Social Policy - [e.g., Adoption (Information and Tracing) Bill] - set down by Supreme Court in IO'T v B; 3 April 1988:

Dr Conor O'Mahony:



"It's for the Oireachtas and not for the courts to establish how to balance competing rights, how to deal with sensitive matters of social policy. And the courts will in the vast majority of cases unless there are extreme consequences defer to the balance struck by the Oireachtas. …. Some recent examples, a challenge on the age of consent, a challenge on the law criminalising assisted suicide, a challenge on parenting surrogacy arrangements. In all those cases, the SC stressed the complex social matters should be addressed by the Oireachtas, and not by the courts."​



Starry: ^^^ ^^^ Keep listening to Dr Mahony talk about the Irish Constitution and International Human Rights Law (UN Convention on Rights of the Child and European Convention on Human Rights - access to a Birth Certificate as a minimum core - can't justify qualifying that basic right) on this issue.
 

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WHISTLEBLOWER SCOOP: Irish Examiner Senior Investigative Journo Conall O'Fatharta was given a copy of the unpublished Collaborative Forum's Report (y)


Government's Agenda Laid Bare on Adoption Bill - by Investigative Journalist
Conall O'Fatharta




By Conall Ó Fátharta

Saturday, June 15, 2019 - 05:40 AM


Unpublished Collaborative Forum Report called for 'the scrapping of the Adoption Information and Tracing
Bill' (y) (y)(y)


... and outlines the view of forum members that the legislation was designed to prevent access to personal information, “not just to the identity and personal records of those legally or illegally adopted post 1952,

BUT also to the records of the unaccompanied children, boarded-out and fostered children, who are defined euphemistically as being ‘subject to an informal care arrangement
’.” :mad:


Without exception, all representative groups, sampled by our sub-committee, have called for the immediate removal of Tusla from their involvement in providing information services. …. (y)


STARRY: DISINGENUOUS DODGES FROM TULSA ON "CHALLENGES" WHEN MAKING A DECISION TO RELEASE INFORMATION ~~~


[TULSA] … including having to take into account data-protection legislation. Tusla said an applicant is entitled to information that relates to them, but not to information about other individuals — namely natural parents.


More info




(y) (y) (y) WE NEED A WHISTLEBLOWER TO LEAK THE NEW DRAFT LEGISLATION FOR EXHUMING CHILDREN'S REMAINS AT TUAM
 

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Every now and then in this area one does catch a glimpse of the 'management' approach rather than transparent agenda involved at state level.

This is definitely one of those.
 

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Conall Ó Fátharta‏ @ococonuts


Report also scathing of Govt plans to give Tusla sole responsibility over information tracing. Cites numerous bad experiences, claims Tusla attitude to releasing info is one of “secrecy, opaqueness, and authoritarianism”.


8:51 AM - 15 Jun 2019





Conall Ó Fátharta‏ @ococonuts


Adoption tracing and info bill aims “to prevent access” to records acc to unpublished Mother and Baby Home Collaborative Forum Report.


8:43 AM - 15 Jun 2019
 

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Children's Burial Ground 'FOR SALE'

Over 800 Missing Babies - Bessborough Mother and Baby Home



'Do the people of Cork care enough to do right by the missing babies of Bessborough?'


April 24, 2019


By Donal O'Keeffe


…. More than 900 babies died there, and the commission was only able to find graves for 64 of them.


Children's Burial Ground 'FOR SALE'



The former Bessborough site is currently for sale, and the Sisters of the Sacred Hearts of Jesus and Mary stand to make untold millions from that sale. Part of the site for sale is marked on a 1930s map as “Children’s burial ground”, and it has large sec not been subjected to a geo-physical examination. That is thetion to disused waste-ground to the east of the nuns’ graveyard.
 

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No clarification of Commission's statements about 2 Death Registers for Bessboro' Mother and Baby Home


Sacred Hearts of Jesus and Mary only handed over ONE Death Register


Both Tusla and Sacred Hearts of Jesus and Mary deny that there are 2 Death Registers for Bessboro'




Sunday, June 02, 2019 - 04:43 PM


By Conall Ó Fátharta


In 2015, an Irish Examiner investigation revealed that:



… between March 31, 1939, and December 5, 1944, the DLGPH [Department of Local Government and Public Health] was informed that 353 infant deaths occurred at the institution. However, the Bessborough Death Register shows just 273 infant deaths in this period — a discrepancy of 80.​
The Commission's report sought to explain this discrepancy stating that "the Bessborough Home and the Sacred Heart Maternity Hospital kept separate death registers". [See below]​



Extract from the Fifth Interim Report:


"Deaths that occurred in the Home and deaths which occurred in the hospital were separately recorded and notified. This has led some commentators to suggest that the Bessborough authorities overstated deaths which occurred in the institution when reporting to the Department of Local Government and Public Health. The number of deaths reported to the department was the combined deaths in the two facilities as opposed to deaths which occurred in the Home only, ...."​



[TULSA] It pointed out that some deaths are recorded in the admissions and discharges register for both the home and maternity hospital but that it had "no way of verifying that all deaths that occurred in the home and the maternity wing were recorded in these registers".​



Starry: Commission fobbed off Irish Examiner by stating - you will have to wait until Final Report.

Keep digging Conall.
 

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Documented evidence of ILLEGAL ADOPTION - Jackie Foley Case

Onus is on natural mother to ensure a full investigation into irregularities is carried out by Adoption Authority of Ireland [AAI] - the AAI BOARD must be FORMALLY notified



'Special Report: Women forced to give up babies for adoption still failed by State bodies'



Monday, December 03, 2018 - 12:00 AM




FALSIFIED DOCUMENTS BY SISTERS OF SACRED HEARTS OF JESUS AND MARY IN JACKIE FOLEY CASE - THERE'S QUITE A PAPER TRAIL OF THIS CRIME ~


Documents seen by the Irish Examiner reveal, and indeed name, individual nuns who worked at the Bessborough Mother and Baby Home and the affiliated Sacred Heart Adoption Society (SHAS) who were party to this.
…. Almost half a century later, the attitude of certain State agencies — the Adoption Authority of Ireland (AAI), and Tusla — to her [JACKIE FOLEY] case is as cold-hearted as the nuns who forced her as a 16-year-old to sign away both her and her son’s identities.
The furnishing of false information to the Adoption Board was a criminal offence under Section 43 of the Adoption Act 1953, punishable on conviction by one year in prison or a fine not exceeding £100, or both.



STARRY:

Henceforth Illegal adoptions are to be called illegal registrations to protect against civil action - the usual cover up of criminal matters!


@Conall, This is great journalism. To convey relevant points in a clear and concise manner is a testament to your wealth of knowledge on the subject matter and expertise.(y)(y)(y)
 

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The Court of Appeal Judgment on George Pell v R could be handed down next week before the court goes in to recess from 29 June - 14 July


The Australian newspaper is a Rupert Murdoch publication

June 22, 2019


John Ferguson Associate Editor


[The article is now subscriber only]

Starry: The Judgment may contain further references to the evidence without identifying the complainant "R."
 
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Sacred Hearts Sisters have banned access to Bessboro' Cork site


'Sisters, for the love of God — tell us where the Bessborough babies are'


Tuesday, June 25, 2019 - 12:00 AM


By Fergus Finlay


…. First of all, the nuns who still own Bessborough, the Sisters of the Sacred Hearts of Jesus and Mary (wonderful name), have barred access to the site and demolished a section of the old folly without authorisation (it is currently being restored by a specialist contractor). Secondly, the families no longer know where any of the babies are buried.

If you stop for a minute and just think, it’s an overwhelming fact that an order of nuns, funded by the State, has disposed of hundreds of dead babies and is unwilling to tell anyone where they are.

If we allow ourselves to forget the stealing of citizenship; if we allow ourselves to treat anyone as “the other”; if we refuse to accord children the birthright of an identity, we will repeat the terrible mistakes of the past



Bessborough: ‘There Are 900 Bodies After Going Missing’

Bodger
at 11:59 am April 17, 2019



"This morning’s report also found that, between 1927 and 1985, 12 adult women, who were former residents of Bessborough and whose deaths were not childbirth related, were buried in St Joseph’s Cemetery.​
"One of these women entered Bessborough in 1922 at the age of 20 and remained there until she died in 1984. Another of the women started living in Bessborough, aged 21, in 1924 and remained there until her death in 1985.​
"The commission also identified the deaths of 14 mothers who lived in Bessborough – nine of whom died of pregnancy or childbirth-related reasons. However the commission was unable to established the burial place of these 14 women.​



Fifth Interim Report:

 

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Independent Inquiry Child Sexual Abuse


Archbishop of Westminster Vincent Gerard Nichols attempted to defend the reputation of the Church rather than recognise its failure to protect children


They could have stopped children being abused. And the Archdiocese of Birmingham is still failing in its child protection safeguarding policy


Cardinal Vincent Gerard Nichols is the current leader of Roman Catholics in England and Wales and was archbishop of Birmingham from 2000 to 2009



'Archbishop of Westminster put church's reputation before children, says abuse inquiry'


Thursday 20 June 2019 13:35, UK



Inquiry chairwoman Professor Alexis Jay said she was "truly shocked" by the abuse and hoped the findings would help to ensure no repeat of such failings. ….​
"Victims and survivors' allegations were mostly ignored for years, while perpetrators avoided prosecution. ….​
[....]​
The inquiry heard Cardinal Nichols had been aware of a 1968 note which included a reference to Fr Tolkien having apparently admitted ordering a group of Scouts to strip naked.​
The report found that the church "was aware of the risk Father Tolkien [son of JRR Tolkien - The Lord of The Rings] posed to children and yet the archdiocese took little or no steps to protect children from those risks".​




Link to Independent Inquiry Child Sexual Abuse Report follows…



Independent Inquiry Child Sexual Abuse

The Roman Catholic Church Case Study: Archdiocese of Birmingham Investigation Report

June 2019

A report of the Inquiry Panel

Professor Alexis Jay OBE

Professor Sir Malcolm Evans KCMG OBE

Ivor Frank

Drusilla Sharpling CBE


I recommend Viewing ~

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I recommend reading the Executive Summary in full at a minimum.

Download:

Roman Catholic Church (Archdiocese of Birmingham case study) Investigation Report

20 June 2019

The Roman Catholic Church Report

This publication is available at Publications

CCS0519276634 06/19



Independent Inquiry Child Sexual Abuse

The Roman Catholic Church
Case Study:
Archdiocese of Birmingham
Investigation Report
June 2019

2019
A report of the Inquiry Panel
Professor Alexis Jay OBE
Professor Sir Malcolm Evans KCMG OBE
Ivor Frank
Drusilla Sharpling CBE

© Crown copyright 2019



*No third party material*

Extracts

Executive Summary


The Archdiocese of Birmingham serves a Catholic population of nearly half a million people and is one of 22 dioceses within the Roman Catholic Church in England and Wales. It has been the subject of considerable press attention due to the number of child sexual abuse cases that have come to light and concerns about the way they have been handled.

Since the mid 1930s, there have been over 130 allegations of child sexual abuse made against no fewer than 78 individuals associated with the Archdiocese. Many of the allegations have been made against priests and deacons. Thirteen individuals have been convicted of some of the most serious sexual offences against children. Three other individuals received cautions. Those 16 criminal cases involved no fewer than 53 victims. However, many of the 78 individuals accused of committing child sexual abuse are no longer alive and the allegations cannot now be fully investigated by the Archdiocese or the police.

Civil claims have also been brought against the Archdiocese and significant sums of money have been paid out in compensation and legal fees.

The true scale of offending and the number of children who were abused is likely to be far greater than set out in this report.

This case study investigated the response of the Archdiocese of Birmingham to child sexual abuse by examining the cases of four people: Samuel Penney, James Robinson, Father John Tolkien, and RC‑F167. These cases enabled the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse to consider the Archdiocese’s response in relation to those perpetrators convicted before the criminal courts (Penney and Robinson) and, in contrast, cases where there have been no formal findings in criminal or civil jurisdictions (Father Tolkien and RC‑F167). The cases have also enabled the Inquiry to consider the Archdiocesan response both before and after the publication of the 2001 Nolan report.

The Nolan report was a significant milestone for the Roman Catholic Church because it examined the Church’s child protection arrangements and made recommendations for structural and procedural reforms. Importantly, the report set out how the Church should respond to allegations of sexual abuse and recommended that the Church conduct a further review after five years. This led to the 2007 Cumberlege report which was intended to bring about further changes to child protection arrangements, placing greater emphasis on safeguarding. It is clear that whatever the state of child protection arrangements prior to 2002, the recommendations set out in these reports provided a clear direction for the Church. The recommendations were intended to bring about major reforms.

[....]

The sexual abuse perpetrated by Penney and Robinson could have been stopped much earlier if the Archdiocese had not been driven by a determination to protect the reputation of the Church. In doing so, it sealed the fate of many victims whose trust was placed in these abusers. The plight of victims was ignored or swept under the carpet, allowing the perpetrators to carry on abusing, often for many years.

[....]

As the Archdiocese accepted:

“This Inquiry has heard more than sufficient evidence to be satisfied that during the second half of the last century, the Archdiocese was responsible for a number of institutional failings which on occasions permitted the sexual abuse of children to continue when it might otherwise have been stopped ….”

Archbishop Vincent Nichols described the steps taken to gain a better understanding of the lifelong and corrosive impact that child sexual abuse causes. In 2018, the current Archbishop of Birmingham, Archbishop Bernard Longley, commissioned a review of past cases to help learn lessons from failings and to deepen the Archdiocese’s understanding of the effects of the abuse on the victims.

Following the Nolan report, there have been improvements in the way child sexual abuse allegations are handled and increased cooperation between the Archdiocese and the police and statutory agencies. Nevertheless, recent reviews conducted by the Archdiocese in 2018 have uncovered significant problems with record keeping and case management. One of the reviews – an independent audit of the Archdiocese’s safeguarding arrangements – found that the current safeguarding team was not adequately supervised and was critical of the recording systems. The audit found it was difficult to follow what had happened from the case files and ascertain what action had been taken. Despite the passage of time since the publication of the Nolan report – some 17 years have elapsed – there are still significant gaps in the Archdiocese’s child safeguarding arrangements.

This report on the Archdiocese of Birmingham case study forms part of the Inquiry’s wider investigation into the Roman Catholic Church. As part of that investigation there will be a hearing in late 2019 following which a further report, including any recommendations, will be published.


© Crown copyright 2019


 

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Catholic propaganda news agencies have been saying for weeks now that George Pell will be moved by his supporters to a "safe / secure bolt hole" due to threats against him should his conviction be overturned. The court goes in to recess from 29 June - 14 July.

Should Pell be successful in his appeal, I expect to see him swilling beer and tucking in to a large plate of steak and chips at Caffe Domiziano Restaurant, Piazza Navona, Rome - AGAIN - recalling the time Pell couldn't appear in person at Royal Commission in Oz due to his heart condition. Prize photo shots!


By Frank Coletta for Daily Mail Australia

Published: 08:06, 10 May 2016 | Updated: 09:08, 10 May 2016



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'Cardinal George Pell tucks into steak and chips and washes it down with beer - but he was 'too ill' to travel home to Australia to face grilling over church child sex abuse scandal'
 

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Catholic propaganda news agencies have been saying for weeks now that George Pell will be moved by his supporters to a "safe / secure bolt hole" due to threats against him should his conviction be overturned. The court goes in to recess from 29 June - 14 July.

Should Pell be successful in his appeal, I expect to see him swilling beer and tucking in to a large plate of steak and chips at Caffe Domiziano Restaurant, Piazza Navona, Rome - AGAIN - recalling the time Pell couldn't appear in person at Royal Commission in Oz due to his heart condition. Prize photo shots!


By Frank Coletta for Daily Mail Australia

Published: 08:06, 10 May 2016 | Updated: 09:08, 10 May 2016



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'Cardinal George Pell tucks into steak and chips and washes it down with beer - but he was 'too ill' to travel home to Australia to face grilling over church child sex abuse scandal'
Well he did return home

- and was subjected to a Kangaroo Court!

Hopefully his Appeal is successful
 

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'Vital Pell evidence may never be public'

12:00AM June 28, 2019


By John Ferguson Associate Editor


The key evidence that led to George Pell’s five convictions may never be made public.

The Victorian Court of Appeal’s judicial registrar has ruled that the transcript of the cross-examination in the County Court of the complainant should not be provided to The Australian.


No news is bad news for George Pell

Jun 7, 2019 — 6.42pm


By Patrick Durkin BOSS Deputy Editor


"If the judges have formed the view an innocent man is in jail, they will move heaven and earth to make a decision within weeks," one legal expert familiar with the case said.


The controversial case, which has divided the country and triggered an outcry by victims and an unprecedented crisis for Australian Catholics, is likely to head to the High Court regardless of the outcome.

Starry:

I don't agree with the expert's opinion (see article ^^^) that the Victoria Court of Appeal judges will make a decision quickly if they think Pell is innocent. I would speculate the 3 judges want to cover in detail all aspects of their considered decision, especially if this is appealed to the High Court of Australia. Pell would have to get special leave and the appeal would have to be granted on a point of [criminal] law. They wouldn't have too many cases going forward, or every Tom, Nicola and Harry would want to do same. And few cases would be successful there.

I think editor Patrick Durkin might be saying


(1) Pell will appeal to the High Court (full bench) if his conviction is upheld.

And

(2) If there is an acquittal or order for a retrial the prosecution will likely ask for leave to appeal.


Merely my opinion: I don't think George Pell will be acquitted (jury verdict was unsafe), but it's possible that he could get a retrial on technical points being appealed by him.
 

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National Primary Schools …


*Judge Iarfhlaith O'Neil's ruling has implications for up to 350 survivors of historic sexual abuse that took place in primary schools

Judge Iarfhlaith O'Neil ruled


<… that the State’s insistence on a "prior complaint" [about their abuser to the authorities] is "inconsistent with the core reasoning of the judgment of the court" and "impedes" its operation.>

'Judge rules State misinterpreted ECHR abuse ruling'

Updated / Tuesday, 9 Jul 2019 08:21


By Emma O Kelly Education Correspondent


"… Judge Iarfhlaith O'Neill has ruled that the State’s interpretation represents "a fundamental unfairness to applicants" and involves "an inherent inversion of logic", because of its insistence that survivors of sex abuse in primary schools need to prove that there was a complaint made to authorities about their abuser before their abuse took place.​
"In a ruling directly related to the cases of 13 applicants who were turned down for compensation from the State, the judge has concluded that all 13 are entitled to a payment from the scheme.​


More info below...


'Govt compensation scheme [established 4 years ago] has paid nothing to abuse survivors'

Updated / Monday, 13 May 2019 07:32


By Joe Little Religious & Social Affairs Correspondent


And


Minister for Education Joe McHugh says abuse compensation scheme 'did not work'

Updated / Wednesday, 10 Jul 2019 17:26


By Emma O Kelly Education Correspondent


"[Minister for Education] Mr McHugh was speaking after Taoiseach Leo Varadkar apologised yesterday on behalf of the State to victims of historic child sexual abuse in schools.​
"Mr McHugh confirmed that a condition requiring a prior complaint of abuse against an applicant's abuser would now be dispensed with, and that the redress scheme would be reopened.​


Fianna Fáil's Willie O'Dea - speaking about statute of limitations:

"Mr O'Dea said that many survivors had not taken cases within the given time limit for financial or psychological reasons, or because the prevailing view at the time, based on court rulings later upended by the European court of Human Rights, was that they would have no case.​
 

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Cat,

It's been strangely silent around George Pell's appeal. Open justice aside, Pell might already be back at the Vatican - he does have powerful Australian people supporting him (former Liberal Prime Ministers John Howard and Tony Abbott gave Pell references).

To me, the chances of the jury's verdict being declared unsafe and Pell walking free seems to be unlikely at this late stage; I think it's either a retrial or Pell's conviction stands. If it's the latter, Pell might appeal his conviction to the High Court.


_______________



Cat, did you hear about below? A victim of paedophile Anglican Bishop of Gloucester Peter Ball suicided when Bishop Ball received a mere police caution for gross indecency.

The Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse (IICSA) Report frowned on Prince Charles and his Private Secretary's enquiries about paedophile Anglican Bishop of Gloucester Peter Ball within Lambeth Palace (the London residence of Archbishop of Canterbury). It's good news that the independent Inquiry highlighted HRH Prince Charles inappropriate intercession after Bishop Ball received a police caution in 1992.

*Prince Charles will be head of the Church of England when he becomes king. Charles will be crowned and anointed by the Archbishop of Canterbury at Westminster Abbey.*

Paedophile Ball was able to evade criminal conviction for decades.


HRH Prince Charles "misguided" friendship with paedophile Anglican Bishop of Gloucester Peter Ball:


*In 1993, a police investigation involving six police officers was concluded. Bishop Peter Ball was given a caution by Gloucestershire Constabulary for one offence of gross indecency. His victim Neil Todd commits suicide. Peter Ball resigned as Bishop of Gloucester.

*In 2015, Ball pleads guilty to sexual offences against 17 teenagers and young men. He was sentenced to 32 months in prison. Ball only served half of his sentence.



9 May 2019 • 12:29 pm


by Gabriella Swerling, Social and Religious Affairs Editor



"August 1994: During Mr Ball’s campaign to return to ministry, Prince Charles’ private secretary goes to Lambeth Palace to enquire about Ball.
"16 February 1995: When he learns that Ball had not yet returned to ministry, Prince Charles sends him a letter reading:
[HRH Prince Charles wrote to Ball in 1995:] I wish I could do more. I feel so desperately strongly about the monstrous wrongs that have been done to you and the way you have been treated.”​
"June 1996: Arrangements begin for Mr Ball and his brother, Michael, to move to a rented home owned by the Duchy of Cornwall, the private estate of the Prince of Wales.
"2012: A fresh police investigation reveals the extent of Mr Ball’s offending.


Cat, as you can see above. Prince Charles should have known better!

Let me know your thoughts regarding George Pell's appeal.


Website of Independent Inquiry Child Sexual Abuse:
 

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Well this Mr Ball accepted his Guilt and therefore quite rightly served time for it.

Well and Good.

Cardinal Pell asserts his innocence!

His Trial was a perversity of Justice IMO

Why will the evidence against him never be released?

If the prosecution had confidence in their accusations then surely they could hardly object.
 

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The victim (and witness) was cross examined at length by defence barrister Robert Richter QC. The victim gave evidence over several days. By all accounts he was highly credible. Pell chose not to give evidence.

Reportedly, the presiding Chief Judge Peter Kidd ran a rigorous trial.

Chief Justice Anne Ferguson - one of the 3 appellate judges - was educated by Brigidine Sisters and was academic dux. She is married to another judge. The other two appellate judges also appear to be arch conservatives.

Cat, I am really wondering whether there is something afoot causing this delay?

Video clip of the victim's lawyer reading his statement outside the court (the victim was 13 years old at the time of the offences):


By Cam Tyeson
31/07/2019


^^^ There's also an article about Australian graffiti artist Scottie Marsh who put up a mural of George Pell on private property (car park) in Sydney that was removed for being offensive. Scottie then recreated the same mural under an arch in Rome. His mural overlooks St Peter's Basilica.

More info here on Scottie Marsh's 'offensive' mural ~




Cat, Bishop Ball escaped conviction for decades due to powerful people supporting him. HRH Prince Charles must have felt a 'right Charlie' for being duped. Ball would only have admitted his guilt at the end of the road for him.


 
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