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Catholic Church secretly lobbied against child rape laws.

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This really shouldn't be a surprise to anyone but it does underline the cynicism of senior elements in the Roman Catholic Church in putting the ecclesiastical balance sheet before any ethical sense of duty and care towards the victims of its employees.

Records show that in recent years the Church spent at least US$2.1m** in New York State on lobbying against new laws that would have made it easier for victims of child sex abuse to seek justice. Further details reveal that the lobbyists were hired to work on - inter alia - issues associated with “statute of limitations” as well as “timelines for commencing certain civil actions related to sex offenses.”

A Catholic Conference spokesperson insisted that all the church's lobbying was in full compliance with the law but refused to comment further.

Catholic Church hired lobby firms to block N.Y. kid-rape laws - NY Daily News

**There is some doubt as to whether 2.1m dollars were spent lobbying on the child sex abuse victim law. The heading of the article suggests it was that amount. The text of the article is far less definitive.
 
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In an email, Catholic Conference spokesman Dennis Poust wouldn’t comment directly on his organization’s lobbying efforts. He also would not comment on the reasoning behind why specific lobbying firms were chosen.

“The Catholic Conference lobbies on many issues, from assisted suicide to farm worker rights to school choice to criminal justice reform,” Poust said.


He said the conference’s lobbying activity is in full compliance with the law and is reported, as required, to the state Joint Commission on Public Ethics.


“As such it is all a matter of public record,” Poust said. “We have no further comment beyond that.”
Hoist by their own petard - as they keep telling us, because something is within the law does not make it right or ethical ......
 
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Hoist by their own petard - as they keep telling us, because something is within the law does not make it right or ethical ......
No no.....they're deeply concerned about children....when they can be used as pawns to oppose marriage equality.
 

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Meanwhile over on the gay marriage thread, the usual suspects are arguing that were it not for Christianity meaning the RCC (as they dont understand any other variant), we would have no concept of paedophilia or child sexual abuse ...
 

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Meanwhile over on the gay marriage thread, the usual suspects are arguing that were it not for Christianity meaning the RCC (as they dont understand any other variant), we would have no concept of paedophilia or child sexual abuse ...
Well to be fair the RCC have, in recent decades, been centrally involved - in Ireland anyway - in widening public awareness of the subject.

Not "centrally involved" in a good way, of course, but certainly centrally involved.
 

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This is the same Archdiocese which tried to silence Michael Voris when he started reporting about the homosexual activity among clergy in that diocese.
I don't see why that should surprise anyone. The RCC disapproves of homosexuality and would be embarrassed by any of its priests showing those tendencies. However, this thread is not about homosexuality.
 

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The RCC is big business & they need to protect their financial interests. That will always be a priority over victims. Its exactly what any corporation would do.
That is exactly it - they do not want to make it easier to be sued.

The Catholic Church is fighting to block bills that would extend the statute of limitations for reporting sex abuse - Business Insider

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New York bishops since 2006 have been fighting a bill that would eliminate both civil and criminal statute of limitations for past cases of child sex abuse, though they say they support an alternate proposal that would only apply to future abuse.


The Church contends that allowing victims to sue over abuse decades ago would open the way for cases based on flimsy evidence as well as take a further heavy toll on its finances.
 

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I don't see why that should surprise anyone. The RCC disapproves of homosexuality and would be embarrassed by any of its priests showing those tendencies. However, this thread is not about homosexuality.
Is it?
I assumed the thread was about the Archdiocese trying to influence an outcome.

If the article is accurate - it shows that the Archdiocese would try to coerce an outcome at any cost including employing lobby groups.
The same Archdiocese tried to blackmail whistleblowers.
 

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This really shouldn't be a surprise to anyone but it does underline the cynicism of senior elements in the Roman Catholic Church in putting the ecclesiastical balance sheet before any ethical sense of duty and care towards the victims of its employees.

Records show that in recent years the Church spent at least US$2.1m in New York State on lobbying against new laws that would have made it easier for victims of child sex abuse to seek justice. Further details reveal that the lobbyists were hired to work on - inter alia - issues associated with “statute of limitations” as well as “timelines for commencing certain civil actions related to sex offenses.”

A Catholic Conference spokesperson insisted that all the church's lobbying was in full compliance with the law but refused to comment further.

Catholic Church hired lobby firms to block N.Y. kid-rape laws - NY Daily News
I'd post that quote from the Scottish Catholic Church spokesman about separation of church and state having always been church policy again but I can't find a shovel big enough to handle that amount of bullshít.
 
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Is it?
I assumed the thread was about the Archdiocese trying to influence an outcome.

If the article is accurate - it shows that the Archdiocese would try to coerce an outcome at any cost including employing lobby groups.
The same Archdiocese tried to blackmail whistleblowers.
A very defined set of outcomes in a particular context. It's not about all outcomes in all contexts.
 

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I'd post that quote from the Scottish Catholic Church spokesman about separation of church and state having always been church policy again but I can't find a shovel big enough to handle that amount of bullshít.
Yes, even by the normal low standards one has come to expect that one was downright jaw-dropping.
 

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A very defined set of outcomes in a particular context. It's not about all outcomes in all contexts.
I don't know about that.
The Archdiocese has been trying to refute clerical homosexual activity for decades. It appears that the Archdiocese has adopted a similar approach in terms of paedophilia.
 


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