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Catholic Schoolgirls Terrorised by Loyalists Awarded Payout

theloner

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'Standing one autumn morning two years ago on the Ardoyne Road, one of north Belfast's mean streets, I suddenly thought about my daughter. Watching the faces of angry loyalist protesters chanting 'scum', spitting, throwing balloons filled with urine and waving pornographic magazines at a line of terrified Catholic schoolgirls'

The Holy Cross dispute started on an Ardoyne interface in June 2001, when loyalists started picketing the entrance to Holy Cross Girls Primary School. For weeks, hundreds of loyalists tried to stop the schoolchildren and their parents from walking to school. Photographs of young children clinging to their mothers while sectarian abuse and missiles were thrown in their direction hit the headlines across the world.

Loyalists shouted sectarian abuse and threw stones, bricks, fireworks, blast bombs and urine-filled balloons at the schoolchildren and their parents. Death threats were made against the parents and school staff. A brother of UFF leader Johnny Adair was jailed for six months for riotous behaviour during the dispute.

A mother of one of the schoolgirls said: "It was absolutely terrifying. They were shouting 'dirty tramps', 'your kids are animals', 'Fenian scum', 'you Fenian bastards'. And all we were trying to do was get our kids to school". Unionist politicians claimed a "heavy-handed" police presence had inflamed the situation. Unionists also opposed a resolution from the Northern Ireland Assembly supporting the Holy Cross pupils' right to an education.

For months after the protest ended, police and British Army armoured vehicles sat outside the school and at the junction of Alliance Avenue each day. However, eventually parents were able to walk their children to school without a police and Army escort.

Father Aidan Troy was the parish priest in Ardoyne at the time and said that some of the schoolgirls - who ranged in age from four to 11 years old - had then been prescribed medication for anxiety and to help them sleep. The Department of Justice confirmed following a Freedom of Information Act request that it had received eight applications for compensation - of which three have been paid out - but refused to disclose the individual sums involved.

The compensation was awarded under the Northern Ireland Criminal Injuries Compensation Scheme 2002.



Holy Cross dispute: Payouts for Catholic schoolgirls who faced terrifying loyalist protests in Belfast - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk
Adair's brother jailed over Holy Cross riots - Independent.ie
Holy Cross school, Belfast: two years on | Politics | The Guardian
 


Prester Jim

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Utterly shameful episode, the hate and bigotry was very unedifying.
The whole world saw loyalism for what it is and what the DUP and UUP wrought.
Shameful too the people who blamed the parents for bringing their kids to school, we would call it victim shaming today.
 

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Shameful too the people who blamed the parents for bringing their kids to school, we would call it victim shaming today.
There were dozens such snivelling cretinous vermin right here on p.ie, who continued to blame the parents and the children for years afterwards. While nobody is really surprised by some of our resident Nordie Fleggers, the psychopathy of the southern neo-unionist is truly appalling.

This thread was only 2 years ago. It's a thread about timezones ffs, yet it descends into page after page after page of various "moderate" "reasonable" scumbags blaming the children and their parents. And here is another from 2013 with loads of the same victim-blaming psychotic horseshyte.
 
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between the bridges

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Vicious and vile sectarianism at its worst. The truama children suffered due to conflict should never be underestimated, because the children never will forget it...
 

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Unionist politicians claimed a "heavy-handed" police presence had inflamed the situation. Unionists also opposed a resolution from the Northern Ireland Assembly supporting the Holy Cross pupils' right to an education.
About as disgusting an example of political pandering as you could possibly imagine.
 

Irish-Rationalist

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Vicious and vile sectarianism at its worst. The truama children suffered due to conflict should never be underestimated, because the children never will forget it...
Empty, disingenuous, words from a notoriously crass member of NIs very own version of the KKK.
 

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Holy Cross was dreadful. I suppose if its any consolation it was one of the key moments of the post-conflict when only the most benighted could offer some defence for sheer, mindless thuggery. Interestingly it also laid bare the lack of leadership among Unionism. They could whistle them out but they couldnt whistle them back again.

If NI can manage to get anything right, I sincerely hope that it is that children of all faiths are safe and allowed to grow up in peace. No one has the right to take out their political enmities on children. They have to be carefully taught, you know, by our bad example. When little kids are little, all they see is another little kid and they are naturally curious and want to play with them.

One of the happiest moments of my life was when I had to deliver a message to one of my brothers kids at his school. I was looking round in the playground and another child told me, hes with X. "What does X look like?" I asked. "Hes wearing a long blue jumper" came the reply.

Well when I found X, he was a Nigerian. You see how it can be done? :)
 

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Utterly shameful episode, the hate and bigotry was very unedifying.
The whole world saw loyalism for what it is and what the DUP and UUP wrought.
Shameful too the people who blamed the parents for bringing their kids to school, we would call it victim shaming today.
There will probably be a few like that who'll pop up on this thread before the day is out, if they're not too busy defending Apple's tax policies that is.
 

vivabrigada

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Utterly shameful episode, the hate and bigotry was very unedifying.
The whole world saw loyalism for what it is and what the DUP and UUP wrought.
Shameful too the people who blamed the parents for bringing their kids to school, we would call it victim shaming today.
On another thread yesterday Death or Glory tried to imply that his order's failed march at Ardoyne was some sort of retaliation for the disgrace at Holy Cross.
Disgraceful deflection. The march has been opposed for decades.
The parents and young girls bravely faced down a bunch of sectarian bigots. I have nothing but admiration for them.
 

former wesleyan

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Utterly shameful episode, the hate and bigotry was very unedifying.
The whole world saw loyalism for what it is and what the DUP and UUP wrought.
Shameful too the people who blamed the parents for bringing their kids to school, we would call it victim shaming today.
The whole world saw what the DUP was years earlier as they stoned Catholics going to Mass at Our Ladys Church in Ballymena for two years. You can't educate pork and Holy Cross wasn't exactly a eureka moment.
 

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'Standing one autumn morning two years ago on the Ardoyne Road, one of north Belfast's mean streets, I suddenly thought about my daughter. Watching the faces of angry loyalist protesters chanting 'scum', spitting, throwing balloons filled with urine and waving pornographic magazines at a line of terrified Catholic schoolgirls'

The Holy Cross dispute started on an Ardoyne interface in June 2001, when loyalists started picketing the entrance to Holy Cross Girls Primary School. For weeks, hundreds of loyalists tried to stop the schoolchildren and their parents from walking to school. Photographs of young children clinging to their mothers while sectarian abuse and missiles were thrown in their direction hit the headlines across the world.

Loyalists shouted sectarian abuse and threw stones, bricks, fireworks, blast bombs and urine-filled balloons at the schoolchildren and their parents. Death threats were made against the parents and school staff. A brother of UFF leader Johnny Adair was jailed for six months for riotous behaviour during the dispute.

A mother of one of the schoolgirls said: "It was absolutely terrifying. They were shouting 'dirty tramps', 'your kids are animals', 'Fenian scum', 'you Fenian bastards'. And all we were trying to do was get our kids to school". Unionist politicians claimed a "heavy-handed" police presence had inflamed the situation. Unionists also opposed a resolution from the Northern Ireland Assembly supporting the Holy Cross pupils' right to an education.

For months after the protest ended, police and British Army armoured vehicles sat outside the school and at the junction of Alliance Avenue each day. However, eventually parents were able to walk their children to school without a police and Army escort.

Father Aidan Troy was the parish priest in Ardoyne at the time and said that some of the schoolgirls - who ranged in age from four to 11 years old - had then been prescribed medication for anxiety and to help them sleep. The Department of Justice confirmed following a Freedom of Information Act request that it had received eight applications for compensation - of which three have been paid out - but refused to disclose the individual sums involved.

The compensation was awarded under the Northern Ireland Criminal Injuries Compensation Scheme 2002.



Holy Cross dispute: Payouts for Catholic schoolgirls who faced terrifying loyalist protests in Belfast - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk
Adair's brother jailed over Holy Cross riots - Independent.ie
Holy Cross school, Belfast: two years on | Politics | The Guardian
Incredible savagery, disgusting behaviour. I often think of it.

After the truck attack in Nice you would often hear people ask "how could someone do such a thing, what kind of lunatics/savages are these terrorists"......we have/had our own and they not so far away
 

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The whole world saw what the DUP was years earlier as they stoned Catholics going to Mass at Our Ladys Church in Ballymena for two years. You can't educate pork and Holy Cross wasn't exactly a eureka moment.
Internationally it was, it struck a chord across the world
 

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Shameful too the people who blamed the parents for bringing their kids to school, we would call it victim shaming today.
That includes certain Eire journalists. And there were Eire commentators who blamed the incident on Catholics having their own schools. One of the culprits was the late Una O'Higgins O'Malley. Another was Professor Ronan Fanning.

Very few Eire politicians or journalists expressed any disapproval of the Prod bullies.
 

between the bridges

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It wasn't really. The violence was (mostly) over by 2001, the conflict has taken longer and in some people's heads its still ongoing.
There are 3 possibilities...

1. He knows this and is just being an arashole to disagree with moi.

2. He's Thick.

3. He's thick and an arashole.
 

vivabrigada

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There are 3 possibilities...

1. He knows this and is just being an arashole to disagree with moi.

2. He's Thick.

3. He's thick and an arashole.
Yet more classic unionist deflection from what unionists/loyalists did to Primary School girls.
Shameful.
 

between the bridges

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Yet more classic unionist deflection from what unionists/loyalists did to Primary School girls.
Shameful.
It's alright Vivy, we weren't all there but sure if we had been we all would have acted in the same vile manner...
 

vivabrigada

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It's alright Vivy, we weren't all there but sure if we had been we all would have acted in the same vile manner...
Why try to deflect from the thread Briget?
Primary schoolgirls were terrorised for weeks, unionist politicians tried to excuse it and did nothing to stop it.
 


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