Catholics May Not Vote for Abortion

Half Nelson

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I had intended to leave religion out of this referendum debate but the Yes side have insisted on bringing it to the fore in the form of Michael Harding on the PK debate, who effectively told us that Jesus would vote for abortion.

The proposition that the all-loving Jesus would support gross violence against children must surely cross whatever line there is on blasphemy - morally, if not legally.

The last census put the Catholic population at 78% so it's not unreasonable to assume that many people may wish to vote in line with their professed faith, esp. on such an important matter.

So here it is -
Catholics may not vote in support of abortion.

The official teaching of The Catholic Church -
ARTICLE 5
THE FIFTH COMMANDMENT
You shall not kill.


*Human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception.
*Direct abortion, that is to say, abortion willed either as an end or a means, is gravely contrary to the moral law.
* Formal cooperation in an abortion constitutes a grave offense.
*The inalienable right to life of every innocent human individual is a constitutive element of a civil society and its legislation.
*Human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception.


So, what's it to be - Heaven or Hell?
 


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I had intended to leave religion out of this referendum debate but the Yes side have insisted on bringing it to the fore in the form of Michael Harding on the PK debate, who effectively told us that Jesus would vote for abortion.

The proposition that the all-loving Jesus would support gross violence against children must surely cross whatever line there is on blasphemy - morally, if not legally.

The last census put the Catholic population at 78% so it's not unreasonable to assume that many people may wish to vote in line with their professed faith, esp. on such an important matter.

So here it is -
Catholics may not vote in support of abortion.

The official teaching of The Catholic Church -
ARTICLE 5
THE FIFTH COMMANDMENT
You shall not kill.


*Human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception.
*Direct abortion, that is to say, abortion willed either as an end or a means, is gravely contrary to the moral law.
* Formal cooperation in an abortion constitutes a grave offense.
*The inalienable right to life of every innocent human individual is a constitutive element of a civil society and its legislation.
*Human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception.


So, what's it to be - Heaven or Hell?
Yeah the bishops and priests have said nothing at all on the issue :roll:
 

Cruimh

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I had intended to leave religion out of this referendum debate but the Yes side have insisted on bringing it to the fore in the form of Michael Harding on the PK debate, who effectively told us that Jesus would vote for abortion.

The proposition that the all-loving Jesus would support gross violence against children must surely cross whatever line there is on blasphemy - morally, if not legally.

The last census put the Catholic population at 78% so it's not unreasonable to assume that many people may wish to vote in line with their professed faith, esp. on such an important matter.

So here it is -
Catholics may not vote in support of abortion.

The official teaching of The Catholic Church -
ARTICLE 5
THE FIFTH COMMANDMENT
You shall not kill.


*Human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception.
*Direct abortion, that is to say, abortion willed either as an end or a means, is gravely contrary to the moral law.
* Formal cooperation in an abortion constitutes a grave offense.
*The inalienable right to life of every innocent human individual is a constitutive element of a civil society and its legislation.
*Human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception.


So, what's it to be - Heaven or Hell?
But the voting tomorrow isn't a vote for abortion. It is a vote to change the wording of the Constitution.
 

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Unless you are 100% decided for yes then you must vote NO .

Our politicians are too untrustworthy to be given so much Power . Do not give them too much Power .

You will regret giving then too much power if you do .
 

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But the voting tomorrow isn't a vote for abortion. It is a vote to change the wording of the Constitution.

Do not give Untrustworthy Politicians too much Power . They will abuse it as they always do .
 

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Unless you are 100% decided for yes then you must vote NO .

Our politicians are too untrustworthy to be given so much Power . Do not give them too much Power .

You will regret giving then too much power if you do .
Keep that power with British politicians where it belongs.
 

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This OP vindicates my long-held belief that there are very few true catholics in Ireland or indeed the world. A lá carte-ism is rife for example as is promiscuiuty among the clergy in Rome and Maynooth for a further example.

An elitist and exclusive sect that is completely out of touch with its founder's message & vision.


[video=youtube;7Gx1Pv02w3Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Gx1Pv02w3Q[/video]
 

Half Nelson

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But the voting tomorrow isn't a vote for abortion. It is a vote to change the wording of the Constitution.
The debate has made it very clear, as has the government legislation, that the immediate effect of the vote will be abortion on demand.
There's no way to dress that up as not holding a vote on abortion.
 

Half Nelson

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:D:D:D
Comic gold. Right up there with Arlene Foster's recent 'Nationalism stinks' reconciliation speech.
The Yes side brought up religious belief. Should we just ignore them?
 

Bill

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You should report that guy to the cops regarding the blasphemy thing. It would be hugely amusing.
 

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I had intended to leave religion out of this referendum debate but the Yes side have insisted on bringing it to the fore in the form of Michael Harding on the PK debate, who effectively told us that Jesus would vote for abortion.

The proposition that the all-loving Jesus would support gross violence against children must surely cross whatever line there is on blasphemy - morally, if not legally.

The last census put the Catholic population at 78% so it's not unreasonable to assume that many people may wish to vote in line with their professed faith, esp. on such an important matter.

So here it is -
Catholics may not vote in support of abortion.

The official teaching of The Catholic Church -
ARTICLE 5
THE FIFTH COMMANDMENT
You shall not kill.


*Human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception.
*Direct abortion, that is to say, abortion willed either as an end or a means, is gravely contrary to the moral law.
* Formal cooperation in an abortion constitutes a grave offense.
*The inalienable right to life of every innocent human individual is a constitutive element of a civil society and its legislation.
*Human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception.


So, what's it to be - Heaven or Hell?
Harding was failed as a priest and subsequently had to leave the ministry.

Harding's false diatribe last night is testimony to why he was a failure as a priest.

On the issue of the vote, the OP is absolutely correct to state that for all members of the Catholic Church the teaching upon the right to life for the unborn is clear and unequivocal, and binding upon them.
 

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Keep that power with British politicians where it belongs.
The British Politicians have no input into the Irish abortion situation .The Republic of Ireland though subservient to the Eu is not under any british control .

The Irish Politicians are attempting to bring in an even more liberal abortion policy than in Britain .

Irish Politicians are not to be trusted as they have shown ad nauseum .
 

Socratus O' Pericles

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The Yes side brought religion into the debate?

Fukk me that kind of shameless revisionism is a discredit to honourable people on the no side.


The Yes side brought religion into the abortion debate...roll that piece of sophistry around your mental palate like a fine port.
 

Edo

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Meh

in a way - HN is right - if you are a full paid up and practicing member of the Roman Catholic Church - you will have nothing to do with abortion..............tomorrow should be slam dunk for no then?

the fact that the RCC requires the law and institutions of the state to coerce the vast majority of its membership into enforcing what should be self-evidence truths points to a far deeper problem for the RCC.

Practising Roman Catholics won't have abortions so whats the problem with repealing the 8th?
 

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I had intended to leave religion out of this referendum debate but the Yes side have insisted on bringing it to the fore in the form of Michael Harding on the PK debate, who effectively told us that Jesus would vote for abortion.

The proposition that the all-loving Jesus would support gross violence against children must surely cross whatever line there is on blasphemy - morally, if not legally.

The last census put the Catholic population at 78% so it's not unreasonable to assume that many people may wish to vote in line with their professed faith, esp. on such an important matter.

So here it is -
Catholics may not vote in support of abortion.

The official teaching of The Catholic Church -
ARTICLE 5
THE FIFTH COMMANDMENT
You shall not kill.


*Human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception.
*Direct abortion, that is to say, abortion willed either as an end or a means, is gravely contrary to the moral law.
* Formal cooperation in an abortion constitutes a grave offense.
*The inalienable right to life of every innocent human individual is a constitutive element of a civil society and its legislation.
*Human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception.


So, what's it to be - Heaven or Hell?
Humans dispensed with the 5th Commandment from the time of Cain and Abel. Humans don’t just kill and in vast numbers, we often glorify it and romanticise it including the killing of children so i’m afraid the 5th angle is irrelevant. Try something else.
 


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