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challenges for the next 2 decades


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Sep 17, 2011
there's a report out which analyses how the world could be 20 years from now, shaped by the combined effects of population growth, urbanisation, climate change, economic instability, shrinking natural resources and a changing political economic landscape due to the emergence of asia.
U.S. Intelligence Agencies See a Different World in 2030 - Bloomberg

whether you agree on the details or not it seems pretty clear that many of us will experience major change in lifestyles as a result of these factors. a culture of 'growth', increasing population but fixed or diminishing water supply and other natural resources means that sooner or later a wall will be hit.
Limits to Growth Author Dennis Meadows Says that Crisis Is Approaching - SPIEGEL ONLINE

So what should we do
- pretend it wont happen
- try to ensure a soft landing for ireland (e.g. retreat from the globalised economy and strive for self sufficiency and sustainability within our own borders)
- lobby international bodies such as the un to take sustainability seriously
- grab as much of that growth as we can so we can buy our way out when the resource shortage hits
- something else ?


Well-known member
Oct 25, 2011
As I have been saying for years, we have to protect our natural resources from the same political & financial gurriers that have enslaved us for decades with their debt.

Ourselves, Iceland and Britain should be looking to conserve our common fishing grounds and we should radically look at better farming production.

Without the British we could not possibly protect our fishing grounds from the factory trawlers coming from the other side of the world.


Active member
Sep 25, 2012
Well it won't have as big as a impact as other countrys since our population is very slow growth and tetonic plates wont get us.

We won't run out of food since we supply lots but our fuel sounds a bit worrying.


Well-known member
Sep 17, 2012
I fail to see why we should be getting worked up about this.

We'll all be dead in a few weeks anyway.

Little Brother

Active member
Oct 17, 2011
A timely and significant OP that raises questions which we should repeatedly put before our parliamentarians and the various government agencies.

The truth is that we are not self-sufficient; we have taken the easy way out, and have lost the most basic and essential of industries and skills. We need to recover a robust self-sufficiency so that we can survive. Storybud1's suggestion of an alliance with Britain and Iceland makes perfect sense. We might reflect for a while on the paradox of the great famine of the 1840s, when the nation starved even though the seas around it were teeming with fish that could have provided us with huge quantities of nutritious food. Do we learn anything from our history or have we been obsessed to the point of blindness with the mistaken notion that once we had separated from Britain all would be well?

Pat Gill

Well-known member
Jun 16, 2011
A good OP dancl2000.

My own opinion is that Ireland is very well placed to deal with the challenges which are facing the world over the next 20 or 30 years.

The only real point of weakness being our dependence on burning a lot of motor fuels in order to keep our society functioning due to the very spread out nature of houses in rural Ireland.

I am going to stick my head in the firing line by remarking that certain civil servants in DCENR should be commended for their diligence in preparing Ireland Inc for the changes which are taking place globally although I would like to see them promoting a little more discussion on these topics rather than simply taking the required actions themselves.

Here is the view of Peter Voser, CEO of Shell, on this topic. Interestingly he is now the third oil company boss to publicly call for a high carbon price.

Shell’s Voser Talks About Food, Water, and Energy; Calls for Carbon Price; Stresses Need to Explore – The Great Energy Challenge

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