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Chicken and egg :the badness of the American elecorate, and the badness of Trump

cyberianpan

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Trump is plainly able now to get away with outrageously bad things that he could not have said 9...even 6...even 3 months back

So...the electorate...has gone bad

I suspect going worse

I claim that Trump was pretty bad...dog whistled...and then kept pushing his luck with going badder...carefully pushing out the boundaries

I think...the electorate were in on it too

By now...Trump has gone more bad than at the start...and ditto the electorate...it is a vicious downward spiral

Any commentary or theory on the level of synergy ?

Any historical parallels...cures ?

cyp
 


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Trump is plainly able now to get away with outrageously bad things that he could not have said 9...even 6...even 3 months back

So...the electorate...has gone bad

I suspect going worse

I claim that Trump was pretty bad...dog whistled...and then kept pushing his luck with going badder...carefully pushing out the boundaries

I think...the electorate were in on it too

By now...Trump has gone more bad than at the start...and ditto the electorate...it is a vicious downward spiral

Any commentary or theory on the level of synergy ?

Any historical parallels...cures ?

cyp
What you're seeing is a popular revolt against the Liberal tyrants who have held us in Politically Correct chains for far too long.
 

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[video=youtube;Zjz16xjeBAA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjz16xjeBAA[/video]
 

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What you're seeing is a popular revolt against the Liberal tyrants who have held us in Politically Correct chains for far too long.
What you're seeing is thick people getting angry that the rules of the world have changed and they are thrashing about looking for someone with a time machine to bring them back a generation or two. See Brexit for more of the same.
 
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What your seeing is thick people getting angry that the rules of the world have changed and they are thrashing about looking for someone with a time machine to bring them back a generation or two. See Brexit for more of the same.
So anyone that disagrees with Shillary , the Eu commission is a thick .EC you are a fooking sheep , that follows the establishment bul************************ters and doesn't question anything, and you call people thick who question these corrupt nunts!!
 

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What you're seeing is a popular revolt against the Liberal tyrants who have held us in Politically Correct chains for far too long.
What your seeing is thick people getting angry that the rules of the world have changed and they are thrashing about looking for someone with a time machine to bring them back a generation or two. See Brexit for more of the same.
What you're seeing is PC Libs getting rumbled on a daily basis. They don't like it and will stop at nothing to protect the national and global spread of their humourless and moral blight. The spectacle of these intellectual flatliners questioning the intelligence of others for seeking a means of subverting this oppressive ideology is properly hilarious. Having to make a virtue out of corruption and incompetence personified that is the figure of Hillary Clinton exposes the extent of pseudo liberal degeneracy. An odious ideology that draws in both fool and knave in equal measures. Advocates need to have a good look in the mirror and ask themselves which one are you
 

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St. Patrick had no politics; his sympathies lay with the right - that was politics enough. When he came across a reptile he forgot to inquire whether he was a Democrat or a Republican, but simply exalted is staff and "let him have it." Honored be his name - I wish we had him here to trim us up for the Centennial. But that cannot be. His staff, which was the symbol of real, not sham, reform is idle. However, we still have with us the symbol of Truth - George Washington's little hatchet - for I know they've buried it.

Yours truly,

S. L. CLEMENS
Mark Twain on St. Patrick

I'm with St. Patrick on this one.

Some people running around lke nobody in the US ever complained about the government before. It's a national pastime.
 
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What you're seeing is the failure of established politics.

Whether Trump's way of politics will succeed remains to be seen.
Indeed.

The people know they are being screwed by established politics.

Any alternative looks attractive, however different.

It's not the people's fault, it's the fault of established politics.

Trump is not the cause, he is the symptom.
 

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Indeed.

The people know they are being screwed by established politics.

Any alternative looks attractive, however different.

It's not the people's fault, it's the fault of established politics.

Trump is not the cause, he is the symptom.
Exactly...he is the symptom

Also...he id the opposite of a solution

cyp
 

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LOL, after the gobbeloons like Bertie and CJ that Ireland called The Chief, we're the last people in the world to get arsey about a populist rip-off merchant :)

Just who do we think we are ....
 

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Im amused when irish posters discover civic virtue :)

Though I would like to carve out one sliver of honourable ground, just a sliver, for that time CJH totally didn't get involved in a conspiracy to smuggle arms to IRA. The fact that he totally didn't do that, whatever it was, sort of makes him better than the average populist.
 

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So anyone that disagrees with Shillary , the Eu commission is a thick .EC you are a fooking sheep , that follows the establishment bul************************ters and doesn't question anything, and you call people thick who question these corrupt nunts!!
Plenty of people disagree with Hillary and the EC, but they have the good sense not to think that Brexit or Trump is an improvement. The thick ones are the problem.

Invariably, like yourself, these people ooze frustration and anger and their answer is to exaggerate and bluster and pretend that there is more to their desire that 'the establishment' gets a kicking than just giving the establishment a kicking.

But here is the odd bit. As for 'the establishment' - you are being led down the garden path by the likes of Trump who was born into the US establishment, and in Brexit you have those anti-establishment champions Boris descendant of King Charles III and the right of the Tory party. It would be funny if it wasn't so serious.

Lets face it, this is just aimless frustration, and the real target is other people who are not hugely frustrated, the ones who don't get the nagging feeling that they fcked up somewhere along the way.
 

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Indeed.

The people know they are being screwed by established politics.

Any alternative looks attractive, however different.

It's not the people's fault, it's the fault of established politics.

Trump is not the cause, he is the cure.
Dresden8, this makes more sense.
 

gerhard dengler

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Plenty of people disagree with Hillary and the EC, but they have the good sense not to think that Brexit or Trump is an improvement. The thick ones are the problem.

Invariably, like yourself, these people ooze frustration and anger and their answer is to exaggerate and bluster and pretend that there is more to their desire that 'the establishment' gets a kicking than just giving the establishment a kicking.

But here is the odd bit. As for 'the establishment' - you are being led down the garden path by the likes of Trump who was born into the US establishment, and in Brexit you have those anti-establishment champions Boris descendant of King Charles III and the right of the Tory party. It would be funny if it wasn't so serious.

Lets face it, this is just aimless frustration, and the real target is other people who are not hugely frustrated, the ones who don't get the nagging feeling that they fcked up somewhere along the way.
Established politics is broken.
Whether the response to this broken politics is the right one or not, remains to be seen.

What is wrong with giving established politics a kicking anyhow?
 

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There's unnecessary focus on Trump at this stage. Clinton is abhorrent.. that's getting lost in all the hand-wringing over Trump's lack of table manners.
 


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