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Children U16's and standing or walking around a small town


Round tower

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At a local meeting between the lcal gaurd and the community, the gaued stated that any children he finds on the street after 9 pm, he will bring to the nearest garda station which is 8 miles away, where he will contact the parents and they can collect them there. There has been some anti-social behavour, but no proof that it is caused by children U16's, can he do it if he has no proof that thet are doing anything wrong, i would agree if he finds them say with a smell of drink or smooking. The last 2 Saturday nights, he walked around the town and was seen talking to some young fellas, i would say 15 or 16 but doing nothing wrong. Can he do it.
 


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Fair dues to him. If the kids are genuinely loitering around, without a purpose or a place to be going to he is correct I think. I don't think any responsible parent would let a young teenager hang around town doing nothing at that time of the evening.
 

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When you're 15 or 16 in a small Irish (or any other) town there is very frequently nowhere to go and nothing to do, and Saturday night is probably the time that this is most keenly felt. The guard would be far better advised thinking of a way of providing the kids with either, rather than presuming they are guilty of some unspecified offence.
 

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He can't do anything unless he catches them in the act of committing an offence of some kind. He could be done for assault, wrongful arrest and false imprisonment for starters. He sounds like a power freak.
 

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At a local meeting between the lcal gaurd and the community, the gaued stated that any children he finds on the street after 9 pm, he will bring to the nearest garda station which is 8 miles away, where he will contact the parents and they can collect them there. There has been some anti-social behavour, but no proof that it is caused by children U16's, can he do it if he has no proof that thet are doing anything wrong, i would agree if he finds them say with a smell of drink or smooking. The last 2 Saturday nights, he walked around the town and was seen talking to some young fellas, i would say 15 or 16 but doing nothing wrong. Can he do it.
Fair play to him for being proactive and cracking down on anti-social behaviour in the town.

He can tell them to move on and if they refuse then he can bring them to the Garda station.
 

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Are they committing a crime? Are they causing noise or bothering residents? If not, then the Guard should do nothing. If you disagree, explain what they are doing wrong.
 

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Gardai don't want teenagers hanging around, don't want them going to discos and wants them born with the sense of a middle aged folk. After talking to the juvenile liaison office I got the feeling if all teenage were in church provided activities they'd be happy. They must have never been teenagers themselves.
 

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Gardai don't want teenagers hanging around, don't want them going to discos and wants them born with the sense of a middle aged folk. After talking to the juvenile liaison office I got the feeling if all teenage were in church provided activities they'd be happy. They must have never been teenagers themselves.

Seriously? What's the problem, I don't think any teenagers should be hanging about any size of a town at night time in the dark. And it's not then gardai job to provide entertainment for teenagers either ffs!

The chap was being proactive and dicussing with locals what he would like to do to tackle potential behaviour or anti so ial activities in the town. It sounds to me like the fella was looking to engage the parents and get support, bit if any of them had a problem with it, then was the opportunity to speak up. Seems a number of you were not happy but didn't even bother voice your opinion. Would make you wonder why you even attended the meeting in the first place!
 

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The guard would be far better advised thinking of a way of providing the kids with either, rather than presuming they are guilty of some unspecified offence.
Jesus!! Do you not think it would be the parents and the local community that should be providing ng the kids with something to do, and leave the garda time to do what they are actually paid to do!

It was you who used the word 'community' perhaps you should look it up and figure out what it means!
 
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Seriously? What's the problem, I don't think any teenagers should be hanging about any size of a town at night time in the dark. And it's not then gardai job to provide entertainment for teenagers either ffs!

The chap was being proactive and sicussing with locals what he would like to don't tackle potential behaviour or anti so ial activities in the town. It sounds to me like the fella was looking to engage the parents and get support, bit if any of them had a problem with it, then was the opportunity to speak up. Seems a number of you were not happy but didn't even bother voice your opinion. Would make you wonder why you even attended the meeting in the first place!
but he cant make up the law as he goes, it reminds me of an episode of The Professionals where all the local criminals are beaten up by the corrupt police. If the gov. want to introduce a national curfew, good luck to them but its the parents job to look after their kids, its the police job to stop/deter law breaking
 

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Fair play to him for being proactive and cracking down on anti-social behaviour in the town.

He can tell them to move on and if they refuse then he can bring them to the Garda station.
Oh shut up you fool. I would have sympathy for the youth of today. The celtic tiger was a fraud perpetrated on the people by our so called rulers & legislators. Housing estates were built all over the country without any recreational facilities whatsoever. As long as the politicians/planners got their brown envelopes the developers could do what they liked.
 

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He can't do anything unless he catches them in the act of committing an offence of some kind. He could be done for assault, wrongful arrest and false imprisonment for starters. He sounds like a power freak.
power freak... I think not. Doing the job...I think so.
SwK
 

'orebel

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but he cant make up the law as he goes, it reminds me of an episode of The Professionals where all the local criminals are beaten up by the corrupt police. If the gov. want to introduce a national curfew, good luck to them but its the parents job to look after their kids, its the police job to stop/deter law breaking
Is that not what he's doing?
 

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Fair play to him for being proactive and cracking down on anti-social behaviour in the town.

He can tell them to move on and if they refuse then he can bring them to the Garda station.
Gaurd sounds like a ************************er.

And No he cant tell them to move on, he does not have the power. Read the public order act. He must suspect that they are breaking one of the sections before he can use section 8 of the act to move them.
 

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Since when did Gardaí in rural Ireland work after 9PM?
 

White Horse

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Children shouldn't be on the streets at 9:30. I can understand the Guard's actions.

Having said that, what facilities are available for teenage children to socialise?
 

'orebel

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Gardai don't want teenagers hanging around, don't want them going to discos and wants them born with the sense of a middle aged folk. After talking to the juvenile liaison office I got the feeling if all teenage were in church provided activities they'd be happy. They must have never been teenagers themselves.
What utopia did you grow up in? This is exactly how the guards were when I was growing up. Half the fun was avoiding or getting chased by them when we were out bush drinking on a saturday night.
They managed to keep a lot of the anti-social behaviour to a minimum or at least out of sight. We could have a bit of banter with them but if we spoke to them the way I've seen young fellas talking to them these days we'd have got a hiding on the way to being dropped home where we'd have gotten a second hiding from our parents.
Ah maybe it's rose tinted glasses and crankiness in middle age that warping my memory.
 

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