China's opioid revenge against America.

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Currently there is a major opioid addiction crisis in America. Opioid addiction is reckoned to be a major reason why life expectancy has fallen in USA in the last couple of years. It seems some of the opioids consumed by Americans are coming illegally from China, particularly the drug Fentanyl. Some commentary in US media now alleges China is pursuing an opium war against America. The wheel has turned since the days when American merchants trafficked opium into China to feed the habits of the tens of millions of drug-addicted Chinese.
And it’s being used as a weapon in China’s 21st Century Opium War against America.

Read more here: China is using fentanyl in a chemical war against America | Miami Herald
 


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Currently there is a major opioid addiction crisis in America. Opioid addiction is reckoned to be a major reason why life expectancy has fallen in USA in the last couple of years. It seems some of the opioids consumed by Americans are coming illegally from China, particularly the drug Fentanyl. Some commentary in US media now alleges China is pursuing an opium war against America. The wheel has turned since the days when American merchants trafficked opium into China to feed the habits of the tens of millions of drug-addicted Chinese.


Read more here: China is using fentanyl in a chemical war against America | Miami Herald
Erm - the Opium War and trafficking was primarily down to the British.
 

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well nobody wants to buy american cars, nor their drugs it now seems.
 

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Currently there is a major opioid addiction crisis in America. Opioid addiction is reckoned to be a major reason why life expectancy has fallen in USA in the last couple of years. It seems some of the opioids consumed by Americans are coming illegally from China, particularly the drug Fentanyl. Some commentary in US media now alleges China is pursuing an opium war against America. The wheel has turned since the days when American merchants trafficked opium into China to feed the habits of the tens of millions of drug-addicted Chinese.


Read more here: China is using fentanyl in a chemical war against America | Miami Herald
I would say thats the dumbest thing ive read today, but we live in the age of stupid, so its hard to keep track.
 

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Currently there is a major opioid addiction crisis in America. Opioid addiction is reckoned to be a major reason why life expectancy has fallen in USA in the last couple of years. It seems some of the opioids consumed by Americans are coming illegally from China, particularly the drug Fentanyl. Some commentary in US media now alleges China is pursuing an opium war against America. The wheel has turned since the days when American merchants trafficked opium into China to feed the habits of the tens of millions of drug-addicted Chinese.


Read more here: China is using fentanyl in a chemical war against America | Miami Herald
That was the Brits

- the Yankees were minor players

Also many Chinese were into the Drugs Trade too
 

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I would say thats the dumbest thing ive read today, but we live in the age of stupid, so its hard to keep track.
Sounds like a variant on the claims that the Heroin epidemic was the revenge of the Communists via S E Asia for the US interference in Vietnam which the CIA supposedly carried on after their defeat in order to fund their various black operations .....
 

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Currently there is a major opioid addiction crisis in America. Opioid addiction is reckoned to be a major reason why life expectancy has fallen in USA in the last couple of years. It seems some of the opioids consumed by Americans are coming illegally from China, particularly the drug Fentanyl. Some commentary in US media now alleges China is pursuing an opium war against America. The wheel has turned since the days when American merchants trafficked opium into China to feed the habits of the tens of millions of drug-addicted Chinese.


Read more here: China is using fentanyl in a chemical war against America | Miami Herald
Yes, Trump and his Hatchet Man Sessions have a new front in their War on Drugs.

I am sure they will have all the successes the US had already achieved in stopping heroin from Afghanistan and cocaine from Colombia.

More money for the DEA and the Border Patrol, Walls a-go-go and regular reports of thundering success.

Away with ye, lads.
 

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I would say thats the dumbest thing ive read today, but we live in the age of stupid, so its hard to keep track.
You found a "dumbest post" not written by valhamic?

What is the world coming to?
 

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I’d say the motivation is more financial than military. Still it’s a massive problem in Canada and the US:

Underground labs in China are devising potent new opiates faster than authorities can respond | Science | AAAS

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/chinese-opioid-dealers-exploit-u-s-postal-service-flaw-to-ship-illegal-drugs-investigators-say

How easy is it to buy fentanyl online? Quite easy, according to a Senate report

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/how-fentanyl-is-getting-through-canadas-border/article29547443/


The Chinese do have a point on the demand issue:

https://www.cnn.com/2017/12/28/asia/china-drugs-us-intl/index.html


And we have to look closer to home for culprits on the demand side. The big spike in opioid addiction followed the introduction of OxyContin in the Nineties and its false marketing as a safe opioid. The Sackler family own Purdue Pharma and they have done very nicely out of it, unlike many of their customers:

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/10/30/the-family-that-built-an-empire-of-pain

The Secretive Family Making Billions From the Opioid Crisis

Purdue reformulated its drug in 2010 to make it harder to shoot or snort (and because it was going to run out of patent protection in 2013) and OxyContin addicts have turned to street drugs. Now that its game has been exposed in North America, Purdue is looking to pastures new around the world, plugging the same lines it used here including ‘opiophobia’, if you don’t mind.

Like the tobacco industry, Purdue fights every lawsuit vigorously and tries to avoid trial which would lead to disclosure of embarrassing documents. The Sacklers have also managed to dissociate themselves very well from the product that has made them billions and are generous patrons fawned over by recipients of their largesse in universities and museums. However, they appear to have given little or no money to fight the opioid crisis. Something tells me Dr. Richard Sackler will never face the justice he deserves.
 
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Currently there is a major opioid addiction crisis in America. Opioid addiction is reckoned to be a major reason why life expectancy has fallen in USA in the last couple of years. It seems some of the opioids consumed by Americans are coming illegally from China, particularly the drug Fentanyl. Some commentary in US media now alleges China is pursuing an opium war against America. The wheel has turned since the days when American merchants trafficked opium into China to feed the habits of the tens of millions of drug-addicted Chinese.


Read more here: China is using fentanyl in a chemical war against America | Miami Herald
Actually one of Franklin Delano Roosevelt's ancestors made a massive pile of money from the opium supply to China.

So much money that FDR never had to worry about money.

This was not just about the Brits. Or even just about the Brits and the French.
 

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Sounds like a variant on the claims that the Heroin epidemic was the revenge of the Communists via S E Asia for the US interference in Vietnam which the CIA supposedly carried on after their defeat in order to fund their various black operations .....
The second half of that is historical fact.

The CIA run airline Air America did smuggle drugs in the 60s and 70s. The CIA claim this was done without hq's knowledge. It did happen though.
 

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Criminalizing the sale of opioids has led directly to the production and importation of ever more potent and dangerous variants. We are already at the point where accidental exposure to some of these drugs can harm paramedics and police. The war has been lost and a rethink is urgently required.
 
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The second half of that is historical fact.

The CIA run airline Air America did smuggle drugs in the 60s and 70s. The CIA claim this was done without hq's knowledge. It did happen though.
And today the big producer of Opium is Afghanistan, where there's 14,000 US troops garrisoned.
 

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I believe Turkey produces more... legally.
It does, legally.

Turkey is 4th in the Top 10 producers of opium, beaten by Mexico (3rd), Burma (2nd) and - as Grouser pointed out - the US garrisoned Afghanistan (1st).

List is a couple years old though (2014). Turkey's production (and legalisation) may have bumped it up the list a little.

Top 10 Countries known for Producing Opium - ListCrux
 


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