Christian Bakery facing legal action over refusing to make homosexual propaganda cake

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Ashers Baking Co, based in Newtownabbey co. Antrim, refused to make a homosexual propaganda cake because it offended their Christian beliefs. The cake requested would have had a picture of the Sesame Street characters Bert and Ernie and the slogan “support gay marriage” while also featuring the words "Queer Space". The bakery has been told by the Equality Commission for Northern Ireland that it broke the law by not making the homosexual propaganda cake and it has seven days to remedy it's "illegal discrimination" or face court.

If the bakery refused to serve someone because of their sexual orientation then of course that would be discrimination. However, they should have a right not to produce a cake that they find offensive and runs counter to their religious beliefs. It's political correctness gone mad. Christians are being persecuted by the liberal bigots.

Bert and Ernie gay marriage cake leaves Christian bakery facing court threat - Telegraph
 


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I would agree that it is not discrimination on the grounds that a straight person would also have been refused the cake in question, but that being said, I have an overwhelming belief that the bakery should get over themselves and just print the damn thing.
 

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Ashers Baking Co, based in Newtownabbey co. Antrim, refused to make a homosexual propaganda cake because it offended their Christian beliefs. The cake requested would have had a picture of the Sesame Street characters Bert and Ernie and the slogan “support gay marriage” while also featuring the words "Queer Space". The bakery has been told by the Equality Commission for Northern Ireland that it broke the law by not making the homosexual propaganda cake and it has seven days to remedy it's "illegal discrimination" or face court.

If the bakery refused to serve someone because of their sexual orientation then of course that would be discrimination. However, they should have a right not to produce a cake that they find offensive and runs counter to their religious beliefs. It's political correctness gone mad. Christians are being persecuted by the liberal bigots.

Bert and Ernie gay marriage cake leaves Christian bakery facing court threat - Telegraph
Funnily enough, I am in a kind of agreement with you - I do think that a company should be allowed to pick and choose what work they take on, no matter how spiteful, nasty and narrow minded their reasons.

I do find it amusing thought that the same bakery is contravening so called 'Christian teaching' in many others ways everyday and is choosing to focus on this issue as one to make a stand on.
 

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Ashers Baking Co, based in Newtownabbey co. Antrim, refused to make a homosexual propaganda cake because it offended their Christian beliefs. The cake requested would have had a picture of the Sesame Street characters Bert and Ernie and the slogan “support gay marriage” while also featuring the words "Queer Space". The bakery has been told by the Equality Commission for Northern Ireland that it broke the law by not making the homosexual propaganda cake and it has seven days to remedy it's "illegal discrimination" or face court.

If the bakery refused to serve someone because of their sexual orientation then of course that would be discrimination. However, they should have a right not to produce a cake that they find offensive and runs counter to their religious beliefs. It's political correctness gone mad. Christians are being persecuted by the liberal bigots.

Bert and Ernie gay marriage cake leaves Christian bakery facing court threat - Telegraph
What is a 'homosexual propaganda cake' and does it have a cherry on the top?

More importantly, why weren't they shut down long ago for baking Christians?









I mean, FFS, a 'Christian bakery'; what's that even supposed to mean.

A Jewish bakery would make challah, matzoh and good bagels.

An Italian bakery would churn out ciabatta and foccaccia.

But what in the name of Odin would a Christian bakery make? Communion hosts?
 
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I think they are entitled to refuse this business.

Do they bake on a Sunday?
 

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This is just the type of stunt that could cause the homosexual lobby to lose the same sex marriage referendum.

They do not appear to realise that society's respect for tolerance forms the bedrock of their support among heterosexuals.

Projecting themselves as anti-Christian bigots will offend that same sense of tolerance.
 

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The OP believes allowing SSM will immediately lead to married hetro men turning gay overnight.

As for the bakery like those two 'xian' B&B owners tough titty you've opted to run your business in liberal democratic states ye don't like it feck off to some theocracy we don't allow discrimination round these parts.


Amazing how all these xians have no problem selling alcohol etc, they used to say patriotism was the last refuge of a scoundrel I think religion has taken over.
 

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But what in the name of Odin would a Christian bakery make? Communion hosts?
I knew a fella from school who used to collect the hosts at Mass and would bring them home. When he had enough he would make a host sandwich.
 

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I knew a fella from school who used to collect the hosts at Mass and would bring them home. When he had enough he would make a host sandwich.
Dagwood?
 

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Apart from all that, there is a serious question of licensing rights. I would presume the bakery in question has not got a license to reproduce as SESAME STREET WORKSHOP own the license to their characters. So forget the religious and racist overtone and let's get down to brass tacks. It's probably illegal.
 
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Meanwhile in New Zealand ...

A provocative Auckland church that regularly stirs opinions with its billboards is doing it again with one showing two women getting married. As debate rages over the Marriage Equality Amendment Bill before Parliament, St Matthew-in-the-City unveiled a billboard showing two women in bridal gowns atop a wedding cake.



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For one thing, "homosexual propaganda cake"? Really. Honecker, get over yourself. Secondly what is it about these bible bashers from Antrim? That county is like our Texas. Finally if the bakery in question doesn't like it then kindly piss off to some hole like Russia where they can be as homophobic as they like. NI, being part of the UK, doesn't have then absolute right to freedom that exists in in the US.
 

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What is a 'homosexual propaganda cake' and does it have a cherry on the top?

More importantly, why weren't the shut down long ago for baking Christians?









I mean, FFS, a 'Christian bakery'; what's that even supposed to mean.

A Jewish bakery would make challah, matzoh and good bagels.

An Italian bakery would churn out ciabatta and foccaccia.

But what in the name of Odin would a Christian bakery make? Communion hosts?
 

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What those who have strong opinions on this should ask themselves is this;
how would you feel about it if the shoe was on the other foot, so to speak?

And the answer you get will tell you where you really stand.
 

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... NI, being part of the UK, doesn't have then absolute right to freedom that exists in in the US.
That's an interesting point, Renée.

What if the bakery take the order but the one employee with the necessary expertise at icing then refuses to do the work? Or goes off sick with stress?
 

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I would agree that it is not discrimination on the grounds that a straight person would also have been refused the cake in question, but that being said, I have an overwhelming belief that the bakery should get over themselves and just print the damn thing.
As it is their bakery I think they should have every right to refuse any job they want to if they feel it offends their beliefs , just like another bakery would have the right to refuse an anti gay marriage slogan etc.

I think it is another example of political correctness gone mad and overly interfering with the rights of others.
 

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This is just the type of stunt that could cause the homosexual lobby to lose the same sex marriage referendum.

They do not appear to realise that society's respect for tolerance forms the bedrock of their support among heterosexuals.

Projecting themselves as anti-Christian bigots will offend that same sense of tolerance.
Believe it or not, it's not 'de gays' who are doing this, it is the law of the land. 'De gays' simply complained and the equality commission took it from there.

As I already said, I am a believer in being able to choose what contracts you can or can not take on. I would not work for the likes of the Saudis state or the Iona Institute or the AOH because I disagree with them and their ethos.

However, I do believe there is no comparison between 'religious rights' and homosexual rights. Homosexuals are human beings who happen to be homosexual, just like I happen to be heterosexual. Religious belief is a result of indoctrination into whatever faith your primary caregiver has. Christian family/society = 'christian' child. Islamic family/society = 'islamic' child. Heterosexual parents of any religion = any possible sexual orientation.

You're free to practice your religion, however, this bakery is not actually practicising Christianity, like a sizable number of Christians, they are simply using their religion as an excuse to be spiteful and also to try to claim victimhood. Utterly pathetic.

What would Jesus do? He'd bake the f*cking cake is what he would do and he'd probably take a stick to all your braindead f*cktards making him look bad the last 2000 years. Of course I would imagine many so called christians would love to be whipped by a bear in a loose robe with a big beard. It kind of explains the homosexual obsession many of them have.
 


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