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Christians in lands across Middle East face uncertain time this Christmas


DaBrow

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Across the Middle East, a Christian population that stood at 20 per cent a century ago has now sunk to under five per cent. Yet the rise of radical Islam is not the only factor. In the Occupied Territories, Christians suffer alongside Muslims from Israeli policies, most recently the new "security wall".

There really should be a land in the Middle East for Arab Christians to have safety and sanctity, Lebanon used to be an example.
 

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The poor shepherds and wisemen are having an awful time trying to get to see the Christ child after that big wall was put in their way at Bethlehem...

 

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The invasion of Iraq and U.S attitudes and behaviour post 11/9 is the real cause of woes for Christians in the Middle East.
 

mutley

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Across the Middle East, a Christian population that stood at 20 per cent a century ago has now sunk to under five per cent. Yet the rise of radical Islam is not the only factor. In the Occupied Territories, Christians suffer alongside Muslims from Israeli policies, most recently the new "security wall".

There really should be a land in the Middle East for Arab Christians to have safety and sanctity, Lebanon used to be an example.
The saddest thing about this, is that American Evangelical churches raise massive funds to aid Israel, little suspecting that it is used to cause suffering to Christians as well as Muslims.
 

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the saddest thing about this, is that american evangelical churches raise massive funds to aid israel, little suspecting that it is used to cause suffering to christians as well as muslims.
+ 10
 

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There really should be a land in the Middle East for Arab Christians to have safety and sanctity, Lebanon used to be an example.
Well,not really. Lebanon was gerrymandered to create a state which had an artificial Christian majority, but now they are only about 30% of the population (hard to say for sure because the Lebanese refuse to do a census, probably for fear of upsetting the sectarian system which gives disproportionate power to Christians and, to some extent, Sunni Muslims). It wasn't so much a 'tolerant' state as one where Christians were - and still are - priviliged due to their religion.

Probably the best Middle Eastern country to be a Christian is the much-maligned Syria. This article, although 3 years old, explains why:

William Dalrymple: The final place of refuge for Christians in the Middle East is under threat | Comment is free | The Guardian
 
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probably a timely article by americas finest news source...

Sumerians Look On In Confusion As God Creates World

December 15, 2009 | Issue 45•51

Members of the earth's earliest known civilization, the Sumerians, looked on in shock and confusion some 6,000 years ago as God, the Lord Almighty, created Heaven and Earth.

According to recently excavated clay tablets inscribed with cuneiform script, thousands of Sumerians—the first humans to establish systems of writing, agriculture, and government—were working on their sophisticated irrigation systems when the Father of All Creation reached down from the ether and blew the divine spirit of life into their thriving civilization.

FULL ARTICLE AT AMERICA'S FINEST NEWS SOURCE
 

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The saddest thing about this, is that American Evangelical churches raise massive funds to aid Israel, little suspecting that it is used to cause suffering to Christians as well as Muslims.
Change " little suspecting " to little caring " and you'll have it nailed.
There are a zillion splits in the american evangelical churches and the Raptures and Christion Zionists are waaaay outside the mainstream. Like the wee frees !!:)

For example.... this is supported by the press button b's in the U.S.

Bishop Younan's Sermon during the Week of Prayer for Christian Unity
 
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The invasion of Iraq and U.S attitudes and behaviour post 11/9 is the real cause of woes for Christians in the Middle East.
Afraid it happened long before Irag invasion as being a Christian in the mid east has been a problem for a long long time.
 

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The invasion of Iraq and U.S attitudes and behaviour post 11/9 is the real cause of woes for Christians in the Middle East.
Yeah history began when the US entered Iraq...sigh...

...because Saudi Arabia was always a beacon of freedom and democratic choice to the world even before that? They still won't allow the construction of any cathedrals in the 'Kingdom' - and then we entertain the whines of the liberals when they complain about minarets in Switzerland
 

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Yeah history began when the US entered Iraq...sigh...

...because Saudi Arabia was always a beacon of freedom and democratic choice to the world even before that? They still won't allow the construction of any cathedrals in the 'Kingdom' - and then we entertain the whines of the liberals when they complain about minarets in Switzerland
So you want to be like them ? :eek:
 
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So you want to be like them ? :eek:
Oh so pandering to the leftie sentiments of allowing Islam do what it wants in the West while banning and attacking Christianity in the Mid East becomes acceptable to you ?

Funny how the freedoms you think you posess don't exist in the Mid East.
 

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Unlike Iraq, SAudi Arabia has never had a native Christian minority. All of the Christians who are in that country are foreign workers who are there by choice. That is not to defend the religious intolerance of the Saudi state, but the Kingdom is not really relevent in a discussion of the difficulties faced by Arab christians.
 
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Unlike Iraq, SAudi Arabia has never had a native Christian minority. All of the Christians who are in that country are foreign workers who are there by choice. That is not to defend the religious intolerance of the Saudi state, but the Kingdom is not really relevent in a discussion of the difficulties faced by Arab christians.
Right so you happy to justify the intolerance by saying its choice in Which case I state all the Muslims in Europe are there by choice so no need to provide anything for them.
 

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Right so you happy to justify the intolerance by saying its choice in
Good god, the reading skills on this board really are going to the dogs!

Since you somehow managed to miss it the first time, I'll repeat, in block for your benfit:

That is not to defend the religious intolerance of the Saudi state
 
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Good god, the reading skills on this board really are going to the dogs!

Since you somehow managed to miss it the first time, I'll repeat, in block for your benfit:

That is not to defend the religious intolerance of the Saudi state
You happy to state that as they were guest workers then Saudi is not an issue.

Saudi is part of the problem.
 

Interista

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You happy to state that as they were guest workers then Saudi is not an issue.
Reading comprehension is not a strong point, is it?

Obviously it's an issue, but the lack of religious freedoms of non-Muslims who choose to go to KSA in full knowledge of the restrictions there, is not as much a cause for concern as the difficulties faced by Arab christians in their own homelands.
 
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Reading comprehension is not a strong point, is it?

Obviously it's an issue, but the lack of religious freedoms of non-Muslims who choose to go to KSA in full knowledge of the restrictions there, is not as much a cause for concern as the difficulties faced by Arab christians in their own homelands.
Oh no I have the opinion that religious freedoms for Muslims in the West should be directly related to freedoms for Christians in Muslim countries and if they don't like it then tough ********************.
 

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Muslims in the West should be directly related to freedoms for Christians in Muslim countries
"Muslim countries" does not equal "Saudi Arabia".

Intersting to see though, that you consider one of the most intolerant nations on earth to provide a model which Europe should follow.
 
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