Clare SF suspend their only councillor

fenian john

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Can anyone put any light on the O'Reilly guy in ennis for sf. Been looking at their facebook page and they have nothing on him
 


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What do you mean 'source' - Shannon was being built in the early 1970s when thousands of Catholic families were being driven out of (or leaving) the North. They settled in certain parts of the country where estates were being built at the time - and Shannon was one of them. Practically every family in Cronan (all 250 houses were being built at the time) was from the North - with the exception of a handful of Chilean refugees from the Pinochet dictatorship. Cronan became known as Little Belfast.
 
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What do you mean 'source'
I mean provide me with proof for your assertion that one-third of Shannon was comprised of northerners.

- Shannon was being built in the early 1970s when thousands of Catholic families were being driven out of (or leaving) the North. They settled in certain parts of the country where estates were being built at the time - and Shannon was one of them. Practically every family in Cronan (all 250 houses were being built at the time) was from the North - with the exception of a handful of Chilean refugees from the Pinochet dictatorship. Cronan became known as Little Belfast.
I know all of the above.
Your comments on Cronan are a generalisation but.

http://www.politics.ie/forum/clare/...end-their-only-councillor-15.html#post4824975
 

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Well known that there are alot of nordies in Shannon. Lot of republicans but not sf republicans some of them would support Irsp and other groups
 

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fenian john

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Seems to be a new face! Good to see new candidates emerge to shake up the same old same old bs of local politics. The crisis has produced svery angry people and it's nice to see that resulting in action and campaigning


Ya ya save it for the doors on the canvass. I might vote for O'Reilly if i knew what he looked like. No pics of him on their Facebook or web page which suggests to me that they were desperate in ennis to stand just about anybody. Atleast prior and hayes raised their profiles months in advance. I was led to beleive another hayes was set to run but no Word of her did they fine out she was unelectable?
Clare Sinn Fin: Sinn Fin Select Ennis Local Election Candidate
 
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You need to re-edit that fj.
 

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while the suggest by O'Reilly has merit - there really are far more pressing issues facing working class people in Co. Clare than this - and the SF candidates have been very quiet about them.
I suggest that he knows nothing of working class or indeed any real issues in Ennis. His generic head office approved press release would be proof to that. If you go on Facebook im sure you will see the same LED issue being mooted by various sf candidates around the state. What happened to the local issues raised by hayes and mccafferty in the last local elections, they have not gone away ya know.
Mike mckee is on the ball in Shannon raising local issues and is playing the game the way it should be weather it will get him elected who knows.
I will probably vote independent unless o Reilly suddenly becomes a leading socialist in the next few weeks but i wont be holding my breath
 

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Just heard clare sf have a candidate for west clare called noeleen moran. So that makes three candidates so will they come out with atleast one councillor?
 

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Just got a cathal o Reilly sinn fein leaflet through the door. Big leaflet with lovely what appears to be staged photos. But what concerns me is there is no Irish on the leaflet. They have polish and russian but none of the official language of the state. Laughable from a so called Irish republican party i would say. Do they have no one in the local party who speaks the lingo who can translate english to Irish?
 

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Just got a cathal o Reilly sinn fein leaflet through the door. Big leaflet with lovely what appears to be staged photos. But what concerns me is there is no Irish on the leaflet. They have polish and russian but none of the official language of the state. Laughable from a so called Irish republican party i would say. Do they have no one in the local party who speaks the lingo who can translate english to Irish?
that's a disgrace.
if they have no one locally capable of a cúpla focal as Gaeilge, they could surely get someone from Head Office to help them out.
i'd say the SF organisation in Clare is probably the worst in the 32 counties.
but at least, unlike the GE, we have a SF candidate to vote for this time in the Locals & Euro.
i'll give O'Reilly #1, although i know nothing about him.
i wouldn't be surprised if we have no SF Councillor elected in Clare - but a start must be made.

i would guess that SF will poll considerably less than the polls might indicate, as a result of a lack of good candidates & an organisation on the ground - Clare may be the worst, but i imagine there are other regions of poor SF organisation.
 

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Seen as how ye lads have no league final to go to now ye may as well stay here and discuss politics ;).
 

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Mike McKee is hardly young - some have questioned his 'ability' - and he did walk away from SF and run as an independent in the past.
He did, but I'd say there are no hard feelings. Sinn Féin tried to do a 'Joanne Spain' and impose former independent wimmins roights candidate, Cathy McCafferty. The result was a split in the already small local organization in which Mike McKee triumphed over McCafferty.

Shannon Town Council (1999)
  • (SF) Mike McKee 290 9.75% 0.97
  • (Ind)Cathy McCafferty 118 3.97% 0.40 (Unelected)


County Clare (Shannon L.E.A.) 1999
  • (SF) Mike McKee 446 6.93% 0.42


2004
  • (Ind)Mike McKee 200 5.28% 0.53
  • (SF)Cathy McCafferty 196 5.17% 0.52 (Unelected)


County Clare (Shannon L.E.A.) 2004
  • (SF)Cathy McCafferty 310 3.83% 0.23

I have to laugh at the SWP..they ran two candidates in that election, one (Karen Wise) got 6 votes!! Damon Wise garners 27.
ElectionsIreland.org: 2004 Local - Shannon First Preference Votes

Neither McKee nor Sinn Féin contested the 2009 County Clare local elections:
http://www.clarecoco.ie/your-counci...acts-and-figures/shannon-counts-2009-5149.pdf

Cathy McCafferty finally takes the 7th seat on the 9-person council in 2009, with 244 first preferences:
http://www.clarecoco.ie/your-counci...acts-and-figures/shannon-counts-2009-5149.pdf

I think that Mike McKee has a small personal vote and together with the vote attributable to the S.F. brand he will be elected to the town council, but the County Council would be a stretch: 1,000 first preferences would be required.

Also, Cathy McCafferty would be no challenge to him.

What about the "AAA" or P.B.P. threat? Well, Karen Wise (SWP) garnered 4 votes in the Town Council and 6 votes in the County Council election (Shannon L.E.A.)

Former independent Damon Wise (SWP, probably a relation) garnered:
1999 (town): 11
2004 (town): 15
2004 (local): 27

But in 2009 went independent and took 42 votes in the local election (Shannon L.E.A.)!!! SWP/PBP really missing him.

Back in 1999, Dominc Haugh took 108 votes for the Socialist Party in the town council election.

So, the Trots are certainly a real force to be reckoned with....
 

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Typical SF/IRA drone voting for the party name no matter what, bit like the yokels who vote for FF no matter what donkey is on the ticket.
right johnny - i vote Party
just like yourself, when you were a Labour-Stickies SF/IRA man,
you voted for tricky Dicky Spring or whichever Labour-Stickies donkey was on the ticket.
& you were every much a "yokel" then, as the FF "yokels", you look down on now.
& you're still a yokel.
 

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I have always been a sf supporter and have moved my vote to ennis from east clare area. But I will be voting Paul o Shea this time round. O'Reilly will get my number two if he knocks on my door and I ask him a few tricky questions. Failing that he won't get a scratch off me
 

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I had the best laugh in ages when someone told me today the Mike McKee's election agent is Peter Flannigan - all the renegades are galloping back to the fold. So much for the 'new, young, vibrant' SF - more a case of Mike stepped out and Peter stepped in again (over a 20 year period).

(and for Eric's information above - there is no Town Council election - it was abolished - about 1,000 votes will be needed to be in the mix for a seat).
 


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