Cold War II

nycman

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With all the shady dealings happening in Putin's Russia(Spy planes going on old soviet routes) does anyone else think that a second cold war is on the cards? :shock2:
 


Aindriu

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nycman said:
With all the shady dealings happening in Putin's Russia(Spy planes going on old soviet routes) does anyone else think that a second cold war is on the cards? :shock2:
No. He might like to think he is leader of a world power but Russia is just a piddling little nation now. He seems to have forgotten that the USSR no longer exists.
 

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I don't think the situation is anything near where it was at the start of the cold war, Both outside Russia and within, which I think would stymie anythink like the cold war developing again.
For one thing, Europe is no longer weak willed and defenseless, nor are the Russian people.
 

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Couldn't be arsed starting a new thread on this subject so necroed this instead. Russia has significantly ramped up the dangers of a full blown conflict between the free world and authoritarian SCO alliance with news of direct Russian military involvement in Syria.

The positioning of Russian aircraft in Syria gives the Kremlin an ability to shape and control U.S. and Western operations in both Syria and Iraq out of all proportion to the size of the Russian force. It can compel the U.S. to accept a de facto combined coalition with Russia, Syria, Iran, and Lebanese Hezbollah, possibly in support of indiscriminate operations against any and all regime opponents, not just ISIS and Jabhat al-Nusra. It may portend the establishment of a permanent Russian air and naval base in the Eastern Mediterranean. Russian forces have prepared and trained to conduct close air support and possibly special operations in Syria, and may begin doing so within days.


And not forgetting Russian aggression in mounting patrols along our coast with live nukes. You won't hear anything from the Putlerbots on this though.

Welcome to the Second Cold War. Let's utterly destroy the Ruskie threat this time around to ensure there won't be a Third Cold War. :cool:

Putin Ushers in a New Era of Global Geopolitics | Institute for the Study of War
 

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I quite enjoyed the Cold War. Mind you that was back when there were countries instead of trading blocs and the civilised world wasn't facing the social threat of offshore corporations.
 
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What we are seeing is the product of West's aversion to foreign intervention. The US under the Obama administration has steadily reduced it's presence throughout the Middle East to reset relations between the two of them.

A policy stemming from the idea that the West's interventions is the root cause of all problems in other parts of the world. A juvenile idea given infinitely more weight than it deserves by the blundering of the previous Bush administration. The consequence of this is now becoming apparent with the increased intervention of non-western powers and particularly Russia in the Middle East.

Obama is not going to change his tact now. We have to wait until the next American president is inaugurated for any hope of change.
 

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What we are seeing is the product of West's aversion to foreign intervention. The US under the Obama administration has steadily reduced it's presence throughout the Middle East to reset relations between the two of them.

A policy stemming from the idea that the West's interventions is the root cause of all problems in other parts of the world. A juvenile idea given infinitely more weight than it deserves by the blundering of the previous Bush administration. The consequence of this is now becoming apparent with the increased intervention of non-western powers and particularly Russia in the Middle East.

Obama is not going to change his tact now. We have to wait until the next American president is inaugurated for any hope of change.
Barely a few days into Russia's bombing of the Syrian people and we're seeing children dead. Will the same "anti-war" eejits who mouth off about Western "warmongering" be doing the same about Russian imperialism? :rolleyes:
 


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