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Comment is Free, Except at The Irish Times

redhead

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Following on from last year's introduction of a paywall for viewing articles,

http://www.politics.ie/forum/media/235047-paper-going-subscription-limited-access.html

it seems that without a subscription you will no longer be able to comment at all on The Irish Times website.

According to the former chairman of this board:

As part of a programme of ongoing improvements, we wish to advise you of a change to our comment facilities.

From today, to comment on an article, you will need to be an active digital subscriber. We are confident this change will help to promote better engagement from our commenting community. We want to ensure that commenting is a rewarding experience for all our commenters and readers as part of our mission to provide high-quality, distinctive journalism.
If it's a recruitment drive for subscribers, it's hard to see how not being able to comment would be considered a greater hardship than not being able to read the articles.

If it's a measure to cut down on trolls, it doesn't seem like an effective one given the number of free to use social media platforms that are linked to the IT site.

Thoughts?
 


Sister Mercedes

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The comments are the most interesting part of the paper. The letters page is just cuckoo nonsense.
 

lostexpectation

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Following on from last year's introduction of a paywall for viewing articles,

http://www.politics.ie/forum/media/235047-paper-going-subscription-limited-access.html

it seems that without a subscription you will no longer be able to comment at all on The Irish Times website.

According to the former chairman of this board:



If it's a recruitment drive for subscribers, it's hard to see how not being able to comment would be considered a greater hardship than not being able to read the articles.

If it's a measure to cut down on trolls, it doesn't seem like an effective one given the number of free to use social media platforms that are linked to the IT site.

Thoughts?
if they want to cut down on trolls they should stop employing them to write weekly columns
 

Kershaw

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Following on from last year's introduction of a paywall for viewing articles,

http://www.politics.ie/forum/media/235047-paper-going-subscription-limited-access.html

it seems that without a subscription you will no longer be able to comment at all on The Irish Times website.

According to the former chairman of this board:



If it's a recruitment drive for subscribers, it's hard to see how not being able to comment would be considered a greater hardship than not being able to read the articles.

If it's a measure to cut down on trolls, it doesn't seem like an effective one given the number of free to use social media platforms that are linked to the IT site.

Thoughts?
9 out of 10 times, comments are disable on the Times. Seems to me there is rarely a report you would want to comment on with comments enabled.
 

Truth.ie

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I'd imagine the subscribers quite enjoy reading the anonymous comments.
Will be that little bit more bland now.
 

redhead

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9 out of 10 times, comments are disable on the Times. Seems to me there is rarely a report you would want to comment on with comments enabled.
I read a lot of the Culture pages where the comments are usually civilised, rarely disabled and add considerably to the articles in question.
 

Sister Mercedes

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Also, since you register to subscribe in your own name, would you have to comment in your real name?

That might be what's behind this.
 

redhead

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Also, since you register to subscribe in your own name, would you have to comment in your real name?

That might be what's behind this.
I doubt it, if you register to comment they have your details anyway as you need to link it to an email account or via an existing social media account.

I'm sure there are ways around this for those who can be bothered to make the effort but it seems like a lot of hard work.
 
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Comments sections are very often just page after page of witless sh1t, on most newspaper websites. I wouldn't miss them if they were scrapped. If 'democratisation' of news sites means hundreds of half-baked dribblings of prejudice and bile, then I don't want it. What's the old saying about opinions being like arseholes?

None of this should be read as an endorsement of the craven nonsense published by the Irish Times most days.
 

jmcc

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Following on from last year's introduction of a paywall for viewing articles,
Guess it was even less successful than the IT's attempt at a paywall in the early 2000s.

it seems that without a subscription you will no longer be able to comment at all on The Irish Times website.
All those poor people! What will the IT journos do, comment on the Indo's articles? :)

According to the former chairman of this board:
Poor Dave. He might be faced with the situation where P.ie outlasts the Irish Times. :)

If it's a recruitment drive for subscribers, it's hard to see how not being able to comment would be considered a greater hardship than not being able to read the articles.
And if people go there to have discussions with other like-minded people, the articles are of secondary importance. Perhaps that's what happened.

If it's a measure to cut down on trolls, it doesn't seem like an effective one given the number of free to use social media platforms that are linked to the IT site.
Given the rise of clickbait articles and columnists in the Irish Times, the content cannibalism problem (paid content from the newspaper being published for free on the website) is hitting the IT hard and the management hopes that the result of less web content will be more subscriptions and newspaper sales.

Thoughts?
Deeper ones once I've finished laughing.
 

Prester Jim

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https://rsf.org/en/ranking

Press freedom rankings published today ranked by country.
So our press is one of the freest in the world but they chose to sit on their hands throughout the child abuse scandals, Charlie's behaviour, redacted shenanigans, the unnecessary following of super injunctions in other jurisdictions, the firing of journalists for interviewing senior cops and so on.
This exposes the real problem, utter, spineless cowardice on the part of our journalists (yellow journalism has a new meaning) and herd mentality caused by the near monopoly of redacted and allies.
Our journalists could be honest and investigative but they choose to sit on their hands and report on Amanda Brunker's bra instead.
 

jmcc

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Don't think that they are sitting on their hands while reporting on that last item. :)
 

drummed

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So our press is one of the freest in the world but they chose to sit on their hands throughout the child abuse scandals, Charlie's behaviour, redacted shenanigans, the unnecessary following of super injunctions in other jurisdictions, the firing of journalists for interviewing senior cops and so on.
This exposes the real problem, utter, spineless cowardice on the part of our journalists (yellow journalism has a new meaning) and herd mentality caused by the near monopoly of redacted and allies.
Our journalists could be honest and investigative but they choose to sit on their hands and report on Amanda Brunker's bra instead.

I think it is based on the freedom to report, not on what was actually reported. If that makes sense. Essentially there seems to be little restrictions on reporting, that does not mean the press choose to report everything.

Also good to see Syria up one spot finally! From 178 out of 180 to a massive 177. There's no stopping them in Syria.
 

Accidental sock

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if we're talking about quality issues with the Irish Times...

My cousin Tarquin, is frightfully enraged of late.....he suspects they're using inferior paper to print on.....his man, Stevens, can spend an extra 30 minutes ironing and folding it before it's presented to him in the den, with his morning quail.

Tarquin's trying to encourage everyone at the club to desist from buying it until the wrong is righted. Unfortunately, his pleas are falling on deaf ears....he no longer has the influence he once had,,,,,not since 'the incident'......terribly bad luck one has to concede.
 


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