Compulsory arbitration law needed for hospital strike by nurses

redneck

Well-known member
Joined
May 5, 2007
Messages
6,873
So we should let fire brigades strike while Dublin burns and rioters loot and burn as police strike? But for brave gardai, O'Connell Street could have burned down in the riots triggered by visiting Orange Order members about ten years ago. Dublin scum joined the politically motivated rioters for the fun of it, coming together through social media.

To stand up for the right to strike in hospitals, would you do so if you were seriously ill? You'd be a political fanatic to say yes.

The aristocratic pay and pensions entitlements of the upper half of the public sector need bashing.
So should the Govt be funding the Orange order? They have given them millions.
 


CookieMonster

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 19, 2005
Messages
33,861
Patslatt's daily bash the public sector thread.

And as for your OP - you can ****************************** off with your attack on basic democratic rights.
You can pretty much tell it’s one of his thread just by the title alone.

Then there will he some posts disagreeing with him. There will be posts like these pointing out that every one of his threads is some shíte about bashing the public sector, then there will be some posts having a civil discussion on some tangential point, finally the thread dies and he starts another one.
 

ruman

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 24, 2015
Messages
3,216
After 2008 the government broke every agreement on the books with workers - demanding massive cuts in jobs, wages and working conditions - it caused chaos for hundreds of thousands of families.

Over the past 10 years there has been a massive shift in wealth from the poorest 90% to the richest 1% of the population - a shift in wealth brought about by the policies of the current and previous two governments that have protected the interests of big business at the expense of working class people.
At least they kept their jobs unlike many in the private sector. Didnt unemployment peak just under 15%, what portion of them were former public sector workers would you guess?

I dont recall many 100% pay cuts in the public sector. Wasnt there a bit of a stampede from older teachers to take advantage of the very generous packages at one point?
 

Patslatt1

Well-known member
Joined
Nov 18, 2009
Messages
4,014
You can pretty much tell it’s one of his thread just by the title alone.

Then there will he some posts disagreeing with him. There will be posts like these pointing out that every one of his threads is some shíte about bashing the public sector, then there will be some posts having a civil discussion on some tangential point, finally the thread dies and he starts another one.
COMPULSORY ARBITRATION IS JUST

It may be needed soon to prevent deterioration in patients' health and deaths in the nurses' strike. Public sector unions in essential industries would hate it for preventing them exploiting political weakness of governments and opportunism of opposition parties who never criticise industrial actions. The political case for arbitration is that it is socially just provided the arbitration board is impartial. That said, the final fiscal responsibility lies with the minister and the government in pay claims,not the arbitrator.

Contempt of court against trade unions disobeying arbitration would have to depend largely on extremely high fines that threatened a union's finances. The resort to jailing union leaders would be politically fraught and only a last resort.
 

Baron von Biffo

Well-known member
Joined
May 16, 2007
Messages
12,314
COMPULSORY ARBITRATION IS JUST

It may be needed soon to prevent deterioration in patients' health and deaths in the nurses' strike. Public sector unions in essential industries would hate it for preventing them exploiting political weakness of governments and opportunism of opposition parties who never criticise industrial actions. The political case for arbitration is that it is socially just provided the arbitration board is impartial. That said, the final fiscal responsibility lies with the minister and the government in pay claims,not the arbitrator.

Contempt of court against trade unions disobeying arbitration would have to depend largely on extremely high fines that threatened a union's finances. The resort to jailing union leaders would be politically fraught and only a last resort.
Only one side would be bound by it and and only one side would face fines and jail for not accepting it. A funny notion of what's just.
 

Patslatt1

Well-known member
Joined
Nov 18, 2009
Messages
4,014
Only one side would be bound by it and and only one side would face fines and jail for not accepting it. A funny notion of what's just.
Trade unions should run for election if they want fiscal responsibility for the state. Who would elect them to a significant share of the vote?
 

SeanieFitz

Well-known member
Joined
Sep 13, 2010
Messages
12,015
Trade unions should run for election if they want fiscal responsibility for the state. Who would elect them to a significant share of the vote?
Hi Pat..............same patshite, different day

Trade Unions do what all representative bodies/groups do...IFA, ICMSA, CIF, ISME, IBEC, ICGP, Retail Ireland etc etc, they represent the interests of their members. that is their job
I expect that there is a representative groups somewhere that might accept DVD motivational speakers which you might be able to join
A cursory glance shows that you have 4 anti PS threads on the go at the moment
 

CookieMonster

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 19, 2005
Messages
33,861
COMPULSORY ARBITRATION IS JUST

It may be needed soon to prevent deterioration in patients' health and deaths in the nurses' strike. Public sector unions in essential industries would hate it for preventing them exploiting political weakness of governments and opportunism of opposition parties who never criticise industrial actions. The political case for arbitration is that it is socially just provided the arbitration board is impartial. That said, the final fiscal responsibility lies with the minister and the government in pay claims,not the arbitrator.

Contempt of court against trade unions disobeying arbitration would have to depend largely on extremely high fines that threatened a union's finances. The resort to jailing union leaders would be politically fraught and only a last resort.
No. ....
 

CookieMonster

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 19, 2005
Messages
33,861
Would you say no if you had cancer and your treatment was postponed? Of course not.
I don't think you know how nursing strikes work, which isn't a surprise really.
 

Patslatt1

Well-known member
Joined
Nov 18, 2009
Messages
4,014
Governments need to cease ad hoc crisis manager and introduce compulsory arbitration,possibly in a referendum.
 

making waves

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 2, 2010
Messages
19,289
Governments need to cease ad hoc crisis manager and introduce compulsory arbitration,possibly in a referendum.
I hope they go for it - they would suffer a humiliating defeat in any referendum
 


New Threads

Popular Threads

Most Replies

Top