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Condemnation of Israel policy of detention of Palestinian children.

meriwether

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A Foreign Office-backed delegation of UK lawyers (who are probably not anti-semites, but I await conformation from the usual suspects) has concluded the following in relation to Israels methods of arresting and detaining Palestinian CHILDREN:

The nine-strong delegation, led by the former high court judge Sir Stephen Sedley and including the UK's former attorney-general Lady Scotland, found that "undisputed facts" pointed to at least six violations of the UN convention on the rights of the child, to which Israel is a signatory. It was also in breach of the fourth Geneva convention in transferring child detainees from the West Bank to Israeli prisons, the delegation said.

"It says, however, that "there are major differentials between the law governing the treatment of Palestinian children and the law governing treatment of Israeli children".


Israel subjecting Palestinian children to 'spiral of injustice' | World news | The Guardian

Thus issue was addresses on this board previously, if someone can bump/link the thread that would be great, as I can't find it.
 


flavirostris

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These people are obviously anti-semites
 

Warren Poynt

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Reminds me of the famous image/photograph from WW2 of the terrified 7-year old Jewish boy in the Warsaw Ghetto with his hands up and being detained by Nazi troopers.

Except, of course, in this case it is Palestinian children being detained at gun point by Jewish Israeli soldiers.

Do the Israelis not see the irony in this ?

Or, like the Nazis, have they allowed their young men to become as brutalised so that the cruelty of their behaviour no longer registers in their psyche.

Where are the condemnations from decent Jews of this behaviour ?

It will not be long, I suspect, before paid and un-paid Israeli government propagandists arrive on this thread defending the arrest and illegal detention of Palestinian children.

They should remember the photograph of the Polish child victim of the Nazis with the Star of David badge on his coat.
 
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Reminds me of the famous image/photograph from WW2 of the 7-year old Jewish boy in the Warsaw Ghetto with his hands up and being detained by Nazi troopers.
There is no comparison between what the Nazis did to Jews in Poland in World War 2 and the arrest and detention of Palestinian kids for throwing stones at Israeli soldiers on the West Bank.

So cut the crap.

If there is going to be a discussion about a solution to the conflict between Israelis and Palestinians it is not going to be helped by hysterical rubbish.

Except, of course, in this case it is Palestinian children being detained at gun point by Jewish Israeli soldiers.
Are Palestinians being summarily shot or sent to death camps by the Israeli government?

Do the Israelis not see the irony in this ?
There is no irony to be seen.

There is an ethnic, religious and political conflict going on between both Israelis and Palestinians and wrongs have been committed on both sides and a resolution is not helped by calling Israelis Nazis.
You are clearly not interested in a mediated solution but only nihilistically demonizing one side.

Or, like the Nazis, have they allowed their young men to become so brutalised that the cruelty of their behaviour no longer registers in their psyche.
There is clearly no comparison between the bestiality of the Nazis and the behavior of Israeli troops. None whatsoever.

Where are the condemnations from decent Jews of this behaviour ?
By implication you are saying that all Jews are collectively guilty of wrongs that are committed by Israeli troops? Does that mean all Jews are fair game for revenge attacks by radicalized Palestinians?

It will not be long, I suspect, before paid and un-paid Israeli government propagandists arrive on this thread defending the arrest and illegal detention of Palestinian children.
If Palestinian kids are being illegally arrested and detained and treated brutally by Israeli soldiers I condemn that.

They should remember the photograph of the Polish child victim of the Nazis with the Star of David badge on his coat.
Maybe you should keep in mind also the innocent Jewish Israeli children who have been targeted Palestinian terrorists.
We can engage in whataboutery until the world ends. It serves no purpose.
It does not help a just resolution to the Israeli/Palestinian conflict.
Wrongs have been committed on both sides and instead of demonizing both sides, outsiders in other countries should be encouraging dialogue and peace.
 

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Reminds me of the famous image/photograph from WW2 of the terrified 7-year old Jewish boy in the Warsaw Ghetto with his hands up and being detained by Nazi troopers.

Except, of course, in this case it is Palestinian children being detained at gun point by Jewish Israeli soldiers.

Do the Israelis not see the irony in this ?

Or, like the Nazis, have they allowed their young men to become as brutalised so that the cruelty of their behaviour no longer registers in their psyche.

Where are the condemnations from decent Jews of this behaviour ?

It will not be long, I suspect, before paid and un-paid Israeli government propagandists arrive on this thread defending the arrest and illegal detention of Palestinian children.

They should remember the photograph of the Polish child victim of the Nazis with the Star of David badge on his coat.

1942

The oppressed have become the oppressors. The Zionists learned well from their Nazi oppressors.


2012
 

gerhard dengler

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The Jewish kid in that Warsaw photo went on to live a long and happy life in the United States of America.

How many of the Palestinian kids detained/arrested by the zionists will have the same opportunity as the kid in the Warsaw photo?
 

kalipa

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Wwhat's wrong? The lull in anti-israeli threads was too long for some posters?

The place of this thread is with all the crap in the zoo section.
Good to know your Megaphone is working. You don't appear for ages , then you're in like a dose of salts when there's a new Israeli thread , wanting it censored .petunia
 

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Good to know your Megaphone is working. You don't appear for ages , then you're in like a dose of salts when there's a new Israeli thread , wanting it censored .petunia
Oh the irony!!
 

kalipa

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Hawaii !!! I think that red herring was done away with a while ago lol
 

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How dare these blatant anti-semites complain that children are being mistreated!

Those poor IDF troopers are just doing their best to keep everybody safe. They are modern saints, really.

Everybody knows that Israel is all about peace and love.

Look how they generously knock down old buildings on the West Bank and replace them with farms and homes for other peace-loving Zionists!

See how they lovingly harvest the organs of dead Palestinian men before dumping their bodies.

Little wonder that Israel has a very special place in the heart of peace lovers everywhere!

Shalom, my friends.

Or should that be: Sieg Heil, my fiends?
 

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Well that's the end of this thread.

What could have been a reasoned dicussion on Israel's treatment of Palestianian Children, which is wrong and the whole mess that is Israel's occupation of the West Bank, has been destoryed by people calling them Nazi's, which is so stupid and so wrong it's beyond belief.
 

Partizan

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Well that's the end of this thread.

What could have been a reasoned dicussion on Israel's treatment of Palestianian Children, which is wrong and the whole mess that is Israel's occupation of the West Bank, has been destoryed by people calling them Nazi's, which is so stupid and so wrong it's beyond belief.
No do not Zoo this thread. It shows up quite graphically the evils of the fascist, apartheid and latent anti-Semitic policies of the State of Israel.

Israeli fascism must be exposed for the evil that it is.
 

kalipa

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[h=1]The Palestinian children – alone and bewildered – in Israel's Al Jalame jail[/h] Special report: Israel's military justice system is accused of mistreating Palestinian children arrested for throwing stones




  • Palestinian children locked up in solitary confinement by Israel. Link to this video The room is barely wider than the thin, dirty mattress that covers the floor. Behind a low concrete wall is a squat toilet, the stench from which has no escape in the windowless room. The rough concrete walls deter idle leaning; the constant overhead light inhibits sleep. The delivery of food through a low slit in the door is the only way of marking time, dividing day from night.
    This is Cell 36, deep within Al Jalame prison in northern Israel. It is one of a handful of cells where Palestinian children are locked in solitary confinement for days or even weeks. One 16-year-old claimed that he had been kept in Cell 36 for 65 days.
    The only escape is to the interrogation room where children are shackled, by hands and feet, to a chair while being questioned, sometimes for hours.
    Most are accused of throwing stones at soldiers or settlers; some, of flinging molotov cocktails; a few, of more serious offences such as links to militant organisations or using weapons. They are also pumped for information about the activities and sympathies of their classmates, relatives and neighbours.
    At the beginning, nearly all deny the accusations. Most say they are threatened; some report physical violence. Verbal abuse – "You're a dog, a son of a whore" – is common. Many are exhausted from sleep deprivation. Day after day they are fettered to the chair, then returned to solitary confinement. In the end, many sign confessions that they later say were coerced.
    These claims and descriptions come from affidavits given by minors to an international human rights organisation and from interviews conducted by the Guardian. Other cells in Al Jalame and Petah Tikva prisons are also used for solitary confinement, but Cell 36 is the one cited most often in these testimonies.
    Between 500 and 700 Palestinian children are arrested by Israeli soldiers each year, mostly accused of throwing stones. Since 2008, Defence for Children International (DCI) has collected sworn testimonies from 426 minors detained in Israel's military justice system.
    Their statements show a pattern of night-time arrests, hands bound with plastic ties, blindfolding, physical and verbal abuse, and threats. About 9% of all those giving affidavits say they were kept in solitary confinement, although there has been a marked increase to 22% in the past six months.
    Few parents are told where their children have been taken. Minors are rarely questioned in the presence of a parent, and rarely see a lawyer before or during initial interrogation. Most are detained inside Israel, making family visits very difficult.


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The Palestinian children
 

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A Foreign Office-backed delegation of UK lawyers (who are probably not anti-semites, but I await conformation from the usual suspects) has concluded the following in relation to Israels methods of arresting and detaining Palestinian CHILDREN:

The nine-strong delegation, led by the former high court judge Sir Stephen Sedley and including the UK's former attorney-general Lady Scotland, found that "undisputed facts" pointed to at least six violations of the UN convention on the rights of the child, to which Israel is a signatory. It was also in breach of the fourth Geneva convention in transferring child detainees from the West Bank to Israeli prisons, the delegation said.

"It says, however, that "there are major differentials between the law governing the treatment of Palestinian children and the law governing treatment of Israeli children".


Israel subjecting Palestinian children to 'spiral of injustice' | World news | The Guardian

Thus issue was addresses on this board previously, if someone can bump/link the thread that would be great, as I can't find it.
Why would anyone with an ounce of sense call Judge Sedley an anti-semite, when he clearly isn't ?

21st Century British Nationalism: The Most Dangerous Man in Britain

Lord Justice Sedley was the man who dismissed David Irving's appeal in his famous trial.
The LJB site is that of a proper anti-semite, which is why he doesn't like Sedley much.

You, on the other hand, are sailing dangerously close to the wind.
 

kalipa

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You, on the other hand, are sailing dangerously close to the wind.
Just curious but what do you mean by that statement ?

Do you agree with Lord Justice Sedley's findings that Israel is in breach of the UN convention on the rights of the child ?
 

meriwether

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Just curious but what do you mean by that statement ?

Do you agree with Lord Justice Sedley's findings that Israel is in breach of the UN convention on the rights of the child ?
It means he doesn't get irony.
 


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