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Connolly. Ireland's Greatest?


LeDroit

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Joe Duffy pushes for Connolly on RTE's continuing series.

Connolly was an irredeemabable socialist, seeking to turn Ireland into a Marxist republic. As we know he was executed after 1916. Had he not been, could he have challenged DeValera in shaping the country we have today? In particular, were we saved from the fate that befell the eastern bloc? As horrific as DeValera's Taliban republic was, was it the lesser of two evils?

Did we dodge a bullet because Connolly didn't? :)
 

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Joe Duffy pushes for Connolly on RTE's continuing series.

Connolly was an irredeemabable socialist, seeking to turn Ireland into a Marxist republic. As we know he was executed after 1916. Had he not been, could he have challenged DeValera in shaping the country we have today? In particular, were we saved from the fate that befell the eastern bloc? As horrific as DeValera's Taliban republic was, was it the lesser of two evils?

Did we dodge a bullet because Connolly didn't? :)
Connolly was a man. You are a herd animal. But, if you study the life and writings of Connolly, you might, one day, become a man too.
 

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This is an ugly, distasteful opening post. The man was shot in a chair because he could not stand, then dumped in a mass grave.

Besides, we have Jim Larkin to tell us what would have happened to revolutionary socialism in the Free State and the Republic. We didn't need James Connolly to die so that democracy could live, and it's historically illiterate and very distasteful to suggest that we did.
 

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Connolly was a man. You are a herd animal. But, if you study the life and writings of Connolly, you might, one day, become a man too.
His writings, beliefs and ambitions have been utterly discredited. Communism has failed. Marxism has failed. Socialism has failed. Capitalism has had a blip and yet it survives. Connolly's trade union movement is now the biggest impediment to progress in this country and an anvil around our necks. They are the new aristocracy; oh, the irony.
 

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This is an ugly, distasteful opening post. The man was shot in a chair because he could not stand, then dumped in a mass grave.

Besides, we have Jim Larkin to tell us what would have happened to revolutionary socialism in the Free State and the Republic. We didn't need James Connolly to die so that democracy could live, and it's historically illiterate and very distasteful to suggest that we did.
It was a question. It opens the debate. I didnt offer a case against Connolly, I simply asked the question.
 

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No doubt Joe Soapcialist will be insightful.

I think Connolly knew there was never an appetite for an overthrow of capitalism in Ireland. He may have been an influential member of the opposition or a coalition, but I can't imagine him having achieved anything more than that. Inevitable shplits among Labourites would have hampered him too.
If, for all his efforts, he only managed to nudge Irish politics a little to the left, many of the poorer classes would have benefited immensely. For that alone, I think it would have been better had he not gone the route of martyrdom. Now Connolly's only a nationalist who has the likes of Duffy to give lip-service to his Marxist ideals.
 

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His writings, beliefs and ambitions have been utterly discredited.
In the minds of mass murderers like Milton Friedman, maybe.
 

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The TG4 film on Connolly a couple of weeks ago was much better.
 

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It was a question. It opens the debate. I didnt offer a case against Connolly, I simply asked the question.
It was the sneering question of a snarling, flee bitten, cur.
 

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Joe Duffy pushes for Connolly on RTE's continuing series.

Connolly was an irredeemabable socialist, seeking to turn Ireland into a Marxist republic. As we know he was executed after 1916. Had he not been, could he have challenged DeValera in shaping the country we have today? In particular, were we saved from the fate that befell the eastern bloc? As horrific as DeValera's Taliban republic was, was it the lesser of two evils?

Did we dodge a bullet because Connolly didn't? :)
You are reminds the same person who danced on grave of dead person you are with your keyboard. It is very veil and ugly. Show some respect founders of Irish republic even though you don't like their political ideology. :mad:

Very good insight personal life and show!
 

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In the minds of mass murderers like Milton Friedman, maybe.
Our system today is closer to Milton's preferred system than Connolly's dystopia.

And Milt never murdered anyone, unlike Connolly.
 

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Our system today is closer to Milton's preferred system than Connolly's dystopia.

And Milt never murdered anyone, unlike Connolly.
Freidman was to the forefront of pushing the shock privatisations in Russia that killed tens of thousands of people - and are killing people to this day. He was also involved with fascist thugs like General Pinochet.

But, you are right, todays world is more like Friedman's nightmare visions than the beautiful hope of Connolly.
 

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It was a question. It opens the debate. I didnt offer a case against Connolly, I simply asked the question.
Man up. You can't insinuate what you did by asking that question and not stand by it when challenged.

I hate socialism but I do not think we should be throwing :) around when talking about a wounded man who was shot dead and dumped.
 

LeDroit

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You are reminds the same person who danced on grave of dead person you are with your keyboard. It is very veil and ugly. Show some respect founders of Irish republic even though you don't like their political ideology. :mad:

Very good insight personal life and show!
You're clearly not from Ireland. Please don't try to lecture me on my country's history.
 

LeDroit

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Man up. You can't insinuate what you did by asking that question and not stand by it when challenged.

I hate socialism but I do not think we should be throwing :) around when talking about a wounded man who was shot dead and dumped.
You're right. I'm glad he died. I think it saved us from a potentially horrific fate.
 

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Harry Crosbie. Hmmm...

Oh ************************ off

The Strong create the wealth?!! The wealthy create the wealth.
 
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