Console Charity - Are Irish charities a money making machine for their founders


Well-known member
Jun 20, 2007
Another charity The Irish Red Cross with financials

Irish Red Cross ex-director threatened with ‘gag order’ over criticism

The Irish Red Cross threatened to take a legal injunction against a board member who resigned over financial concerns at the charity to stop him publicly criticising the organisation.

"Several days later he received a legal letter from Mullany Walsh and Maxwells Solicitors, acting for the Irish Red Cross. The letter, seen by The Irish Times, said Mr Ryan had “flagrantly divulged confidential information” relating to the charity.

The letter threatened Mr Ryan with legal action unless he gave a written undertaking “to desist from any further public comment on the subject of the Irish Red Cross” and the charity’s finances.

If he failed to do so the organisation’s solicitors threatened a court injunction would be taken against Mr Ryan to effectively seek a gagging order against him. The charity would also seek to recover the legal costs of the action, the letter said.

On April 25th last year he sent an email to Pat Carey, board chairman and former Fianna Fáil minister, seeking a breakdown of the current balance in each restricted fund account".

Pat Carey, as good a rottweiler that FF ever weaned, you would think the Irish Cross could have observed the mood of the Irish people, particularly after McMabe, that this is not the way to handle real concerns from one of their own. Ryan has now gone down a route Carey and friends will not like, is Carey to be the next Angela Kerins, that pair have to be good friends from suckling on the State tit annually.

yosef shompeter

Well-known member
Dec 4, 2011
Sadly it's the poor who will suffer most from all this. Granted the hi-fliers might have to find a new job too.
It's time that the govt took over the charity bizz entirely now that its credibility is so dented.

Lumpy Talbot

Well-known member
Jun 30, 2015
Or dare I say 'regulate the sector'. The only reason they haven't adequately done so so far is because there is a well worn path between politics and the boards of charities.

Former politicians selling access to the higher levels of the HSE, Dept of Health and other ministries for lobbying purposes. Use of the Oireachtas pass and so on.

They can just as easily lobby to prevent the sector being properly regulated as they can gain access to current politicians to lean on them to 'influence' the HSE and its distribution of public money channels.

If you want to know whether the sector in governance terms is healthy or not just ask yourself how many charity chiefs have secured roles for direct family members at said charity.

That alone is worth a serious look.