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Looks like the submissions for Swords are just a campaign from Fianna Fail who are pushing for a 2nd seat there. One of the submissions (Mary Dent) is just a photocopy of a leaflet sent / given to her.

Most of the Swords submissions have the exact same words "In 2012 we won our campaign to have Swords, the capital town of Fingal, re-united in the newconstituency of Dublin Fingal."

Lazy efforts from people who ignored the suggestion in the Fianna Fail leaflet to "please free free to use and alter"
 

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All constituencies should have the same number of TDs to discourage gerrymandering against smaller parties and Independents, in my opinion.
 

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All constituencies should have the same number of TDs to discourage gerrymandering against smaller parties and Independents, in my opinion.
Indeed. In fact, given that there should be one td per x nr of constituents (someone will tell us what x is? Roughly 30,000?) then the solution is either to redraw the boundaries away from the traditional county model, or move to a 50% list system. The list system would help in getting non parish pump type legislators, imo.
 

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Indeed. In fact, given that there should be one td per x nr of constituents (someone will tell us what x is? Roughly 30,000?) then the solution is either to redraw the boundaries away from the traditional county model, or move to a 50% list system. The list system would help in getting non parish pump type legislators, imo.
Im opposed to a List System because it would make it impossible to get rid of people too long in the tooth and out of touch political dynasties.
 

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What about the notion of limiting the number of TD's from one party in each constituency? Did Mayo NEED 4 FG TD's?
 

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Looks like P.ie posters have no interest in making submissions.
 

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What about the notion of limiting the number of TD's from one party in each constituency? Did Mayo NEED 4 FG TD's?
Shows you how Sheep like Mayo people are when they elected 4 Fine Gael TD's who are doing nought for Rural Ireland in particular Mr Kenny....no wonder they cant win an All Ireland!
 

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What about the notion of limiting the number of TD's from one party in each constituency? Did Mayo NEED 4 FG TD's?
You'll have no objection to SF losing their 2nd TD in Louth then. Since Adams is already a TD there.
 

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Most posters here don't understand elections (or how the State is supposed to work, for that matter).
Or are so disillusioned with the entire political process.
 

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You'll have no objection to SF losing their 2nd TD in Louth then. Since Adams is already a TD there.
I'm sure Fine gael will be doing their best to reduce seat numbers or restructure areas to make it as difficult as possible for Sinn Fein to be elected...Kerry the last time was a good example but the Bould Martin Ferris Was backed by the Kerry Folk coming in fourth of the 5 seater getting 3000 more votes than the fine Gael Banker & Minister for Emigration of Kerry Jimmy Deenihan.....
 

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I'd like two lists please, in each constituency, one with a list of women and one with men. The fairest way to ensure there's a 50/50 balance.

And a referendum please to reduce the number of TD's and Senators. Currently the minimum ratio of one member per 20,000 of the population, and a maximum of one per 30,000 applies, change that to minimum ratio of one member per 40,000 of the population, and a maximum of one per 50,000.

Then regional elections, where counties are not King, where there's a minimum number of votes to be reached for election for every politician equally.

Lastly, as part of the paperwork in registering to have your name added to the ballot paper, a list of the candidates assets and liabilities should be submitted.

Thanks Santa.
 

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I'm sure Fine gael will be doing their best to reduce seat numbers or restructure areas to make it as difficult as possible for Sinn Fein to be elected...Kerry the last time was a good example but the Bould Martin Ferris Was backed by the Kerry Folk coming in fourth of the 5 seater getting 3000 more votes than the fine Gael Banker & Minister for Emigration of Kerry Jimmy Deenihan.....
I think FG did their best to sabotage their own prospects in many constituencies. The boundary redraws did not help FG one iota.

Examples.. Donegal ( -1 FG ) , Mayo ( -2 FG ), Kerry ( -1 FG ) , Cavan-Monaghan ( -2 FG ), Roscommon-Galway ( -1 FG ) , Dublin Rathdown ( -1 FG ) , Limerick City ( -1 FG ) , Dublin Bay North ( -1 FG ), Dublin Central ( where Donohoe clung on despite unfavourable boundary redraw ), Sligo-Leitrim ( -1 FG ), Galway East ( -1 FG ), Tipperary ( -2 FG ).

That's 14 TDs right there.
 
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Most posters here don't understand elections (or how the State is supposed to work, for that matter).
They're not interested in learning either. Many sound like wanabee dictators - the electoral system should be the one I want and the electorate should vote the way I tell them - why most of the adults quit the site.
 

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With population growth Dublin will have to get at least one new TD. Fingal is the fastest growing area but is already a 5 seater. Will it be partitioned once again, with Dublin bay north split back into DNC and DNE?

When do the revisions take effect?
 

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You'll have no objection to SF losing their 2nd TD in Louth then. Since Adams is already a TD there.
There would be NO exceptions, NO area and NO party. Its that strange thing called equality.
 

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There would be NO exceptions, NO area and NO party. Its that strange thing called equality.
It's fncking stupid. Suppose SF took 60% of the vote in a constituency and had enough for 3 TDs but under your 'equality' rules, the seats were still divvied up among all the parties. So instead of 3 SF, 1 FF, 1 FG it was 1 SF, 1 FF, 1 FG, 1 Lab & 1 Ind. That's fncking stupid.
 

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Im opposed to a List System because it would make it impossible to get rid of people too long in the tooth and out of touch political dynasties.
Non-geographical Constituencies would do the job of lists systems in removing the parish pump.
 


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