Corbyn, a serial rebeller...demands conformity of thought and loyalty from Labour

RobertW

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Benn has to go . . That's for certain. . . But Corbyn won't sack him
 


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Well he offered a free vote and yet his closest aides and allies are now pondering sacking and expelling the MPs who actually took up the offer - it's hardly a glowing endorsement of the tolerance they were shown for decades, is it.
"In Fleet Street and in Downing Street, a wondrous sight was seen
New-found converts to democracy soon all began to scream
"You can't strike without a ballot", well-fed mouths were heard to bleat,
"You won't ballot us out of our jobs, we're voting with our feet"

Actual Labour grassroots members voted him. The SNP has taken over Scotland, Plaid will take over Wales and Yorkshire will start wanting to break away soon if certain battles are not won.
 

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Actual Labour grassroots members voted him. The SNP has taken over Scotland, Plaid will take over Wales and Yorkshire will start wanting to break away soon if certain battles are not won.
Actual Labour activists do no not represent the average voter.

The SNP have taken over Scotland but then Sturgeon is a far smarter and credible leader to be honest.

Plaid will not take over Wales whatever happens.

Yorkshire is a county and the idea of it going anywhere is a joke.
 

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So, a thread on a website because someone on another website demanded that Corbyn sack someone from his website

Can we see any actual sackings or at leaast credible threats from the man himself before this is seen as an actual issue?
 
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I'm loving this.

After years of Blairite right wing bollocks,
we have the genuine article in the driving seat of the labour party
and the establishment are livid that they let him get through.

Their daily rabid attacks on Corbyn are comedic.

They have no dirt on him and they can't buy him off.

Now comes the purge to cleanse the labour nest of all it's Blairite neo-liberal tory cuckoos.
Go Jeremy!! :p
 

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I'm loving this.

After years of Blairite right wing bollocks,
we have the genuine article in the driving seat of the labour party
and the establishment are livid that they let him get through.

Their daily rabid attacks on Corbyn are comedic.

They have no dirt on him and they can't buy him off.

Now comes the purge to cleanse the labour nest of all it's Blairite neo-liberal tory cuckoos.
Go Jeremy!! :p
What's even more entertaining is observing those self-centred psychos wrapped up in right-wing whorishness calling a conscience 'rebellion'.
 

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Now comes the purge to cleanse the labour nest of all it's Blairite neo-liberal tory cuckoos.
Go Jeremy!! :p
Go Jeremy in rendering the party unelectable?

Unless you think the British electorate has suddenly massively surged to the left months after it elected a Tory government, then?
 

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Interesting

People who agree with Corbyn on the positions...outright deny that is is using ...or could be using bad methods

Ends justify the means eh ? And the ends justify lying about the means

Cyp
 

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So, a thread on a website because someone on another website demanded that Corbyn sack someone from his website
No one said the calls for sackings were coming from Corbyn. They're coming from those close to him like Livingstone & Emma Reynolds.

And they're not on line or whatever - they were/are stating these things openly live to camera.
 

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Go Jeremy in rendering the party unelectable?

Unless you think the British electorate has suddenly massively surged to the left months after it elected a Tory government, then?
And SNP/CIA as well as general disgust at what the Labour Party has become played no role at all in the Tory victory?
 

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Do you really think this is anything like as strong as the authoritarian grip Blair had on the party? If you're looking for a totalitarian leadership bent, look at Blair, Mandelson and Campbell (grudgingly supported by Brown). It's ham-fisted leadership by Corbyn, sure, but this is just a ripple after the Blairite years.
Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbott rebelled non-stop against Blair.

Were they purged then, as Corbyn and McDonnell wish to purge now?

Corbyn is a hypocrite, trying to punish others for what he did unpunished.
 
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I find it interesting that there was only one politician who was unequivocal in standing with his principles in the last week and that was Corbyn.

Cameron is a muppet of the highest order who is at the US/Saudi bidding.

Benn is a hypocrite who changed his views way too quickly for anybody to take seriously.

An opposition is supposed to stand for something and not just give a Govt a blank approval for anything they want.

UK parliment gave it for Iraq and Libya and look what has happened there.
 

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Actual Labour activists do no not represent the average voter.

The SNP have taken over Scotland but then Sturgeon is a far smarter and credible leader to be honest.

Plaid will not take over Wales whatever happens.

Yorkshire is a county and the idea of it going anywhere is a joke.
The SNP have taken Scotland not because they're socialist - they're not - but because they're nationalist. It's worth remarking Labour in Scotland is doing worse of late and damn nearly behind the Scottish Tories led by the very capable Ruth Davidson.
 

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Corbyn won a landslide election. He has a very strong mandate to lead the Party in the direction he promised when campaigning, and so it's only natural that he will seek to structure his Party accordingly and give prominent positions to those whose views are more representative of the people who voted for Corbyn.

Where is the issue here?
 

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I find it interesting that there was only one politician who was unequivocal in standing with his principles in the last week and that was Corbyn.

Cameron is a muppet of the highest order who is at the US/Saudi bidding.

Benn is a hypocrite who changed his views way too quickly for anybody to take seriously.

An opposition is supposed to stand for something and not just give a Govt a blank approval for anything they want.

UK parliment gave it for Iraq and Libya and look what has happened there.
An opposition is supposed to stand for something and not just give a Govt a blank approval for anything they want.
agree mostly,,the cheerin and triumphalism when the vote was past was not a good thing..whether u agree or not with someones politics, got to admire corbyns situation,hes got grass roots backing him and many of his Front bench that want him gone...
 
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No one said the calls for sackings were coming from Corbyn. They're coming from those close to him like Livingstone & Emma Reynolds.

And they're not on line or whatever - they were/are stating these things openly live to camera.
Lets see Livingstone is not an MP
Reynolds is an MP no one ever heard of.
 

Diawlbach

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I find it interesting that there was only one politician who was unequivocal in standing with his principles in the last week and that was Corbyn.

Cameron is a muppet of the highest order who is at the US/Saudi bidding.

Benn is a hypocrite who changed his views way too quickly for anybody to take seriously.

An opposition is supposed to stand for something and not just give a Govt a blank approval for anything they want.

UK parliment gave it for Iraq and Libya and look what has happened there.
Stella Creasy stood by her principles. And what's her thanks been?

I note, mind, the various fury chimps going after her or Jess Philips shy clear of tackling Dan Jarvis. Funny, that...
 

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Cameron is a muppet of the highest order who is at the US/Saudi bidding.
Cliche. Are the French, Russians, Germans, Jordanians and Iranians also doing the U.S. & Saudis bidding - or is it just the one member of the coalition that happens to be the UK?

An opposition is supposed to stand for something and not just give a Govt a blank approval for anything they want.
That's a very simple minded interpretation of what an opposition does. It is not there to automatically oppose absolutely anything the government put forward, that would be very stupid - but to decide issue by issue.

UK parliment gave it for Iraq and Libya and look what has happened there.
The Iraq thing is becoming a bit of a cliche to be honest. There is nothing ambiguous here - ISIS really are the bad guys.
 

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I find it interesting that there was only one politician who was unequivocal in standing with his principles in the last week and that was Corbyn.

Cameron is a muppet of the highest order who is at the US/Saudi bidding.

Benn is a hypocrite who changed his views way too quickly for anybody to take seriously.

An opposition is supposed to stand for something and not just give a Govt a blank approval for anything they want.

UK parliment gave it for Iraq and Libya and look what has happened there.

As his 'principles' include sympathizing with, and supporting, the likes of Hamas,
Hezbollah and the IRA - he can stick those 'principles' up the high hole of his arse
as far as most British people would be concerned.

He's never ever shown any inclination to oppose Islamic/Jihadi Fascism and terrorism,
except by weasel words and 'Socialist' platitudes.

In that much, yes, he's been consistent.:p
 


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