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Cork City Council Elections 2019


locke

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Joe O'Callaghan, that bad smell that won't go away, has quit Fine Gael to run as an Independent in NW.

For those not aware of Joe's record, he got elected in 1991 and managed to serve 13 years on the council, without winning another election.

8 years came from the extra long period without elections between 1991 and 1999. He lost his seat in 1999 and stood again in 2004 but again didn't win. In 2004, he was co-opted to replace Colm Burke, who had himself taken Simon Coveney's place in the European Parliament. In 2009, the electorate said "we've really had enough of this man" and failed to elect him again. But Joe wasn't done. In 2011, Independent councilor Dave McCarthy died and in Cork, while party seats stay in the party, the tradition is that Independent seats go to the highest placed non-elected candidate. And that was Joe... So back in the council from 2011 to 2014, when the electorate gave him a whopping 280 votes and he lost his seat again.

Joe is a principled man and one of those principles is that he will attach himself to whatever banner he thinks is best to get him back on the council. He has run for Labour, then Independent, then Fine Gael and now he's back to being Independent again.

I half expect him to come 6th in the NW LEA and then find a way of getting co-opted back again.
 


SummerBoy

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Looks like theres little interest in Cork city council elections. Let's start predictions. Dont know the south side so heres my call on the north side.
North EAST, 2 ff, Ifg, Isf, Iwp AND 1iND.
North West, 2 FF, 2SF, 1FG and 1 Solidarity.
 

locke

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I can only really comment on SE and even then I’m not sure how it will pan out.

At least 1 FF and 1 FG are certain. I think 1 SF is very highly likely and I think Kieran McCarthy the Independent will retain.

FF and FG have poor candidates though and that will hit them getting second seats. And they are battling for these with Labour, the Greens and the Soc Dems. Gut feeling is one will go to a big party and one to a small party.

Soc Dems have the advantage of a sitting councilor, but he got badly hit. by boundary redraws. Labour have been very active.

If I had to call, I’d reckon

FF 2 FG 1 SF 1 Ind 1 Lab 1
 

SummerBoy

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" All Changed, changed utterly ". O'Callaghan outbursts all day a masterstroke, whether you like him or not!
 

SummerBoy

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Can't believe there is no interest whatever in Cork City Local Elections here. Has Locke passed on?
 

locke

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I've been away on holiday. Nothing more than that. So I don't have any great insight into what's happening. One person I know in FG said that people are questioning individual votes of councilors (e.g. why did they vote against pedestrianisation of The Marina?) more than normal and puts it down to social media. Personally, I hope it's true as councilors should be judged on their record more than anything else.
 

locke

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BTW I think O'Callaghan's dog-whistling won't do any good at all. He's tried it previously to no avail and I see no reason why anything has changed that will make it different this time.
 

SummerBoy

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ok Locke, not sure there. A lot of people muttering support for him. I won't be voting him but I wonder, I wonder? The difference may be he's gone from the Blueshirts, people have short or no memories, believe me !
 

locke

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I'll grant you that there are some who will see the work Independent and vote for and transfer to, without considering what the Independent stands for.

But O'Callaghan has a big problem. He's yesterday's man. Nobody under 40 will remember him and nobody under 55 will have voted for him. He hasn't been active in the community or prominent since he left the council (see Peter Horgan of Labour, Julie O'Leary of FG and Oliver Moran of The Greens for a model of how a candidate can push themselves when not on the council). Few voters will be swayed by one comment.
 

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