Corruption in Ireland - The Discussion

stanley

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Paddy's next president.....


Ahern seeks his place in History and becoming Pres he would view as the Irish people forgiving him of his past sins, in particular as shown by the Mahon Tribunal and afterwards by his many developer friends who enriched him with the rise of the Celtic Tiger but made sure nothing could be traced back to them.

Ahern is a wealthy man but these assets are hidden abroad and has difficulty repatriating any of them, if he has a go at being Pres.
 


Jack O Neill

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Ahern seeks his place in History and becoming Pres he would view as the Irish people forgiving him of his past sins, in particular as shown by the Mahon Tribunal and afterwards by his many developer friends who enriched him with the rise of the Celtic Tiger but made sure nothing could be traced back to them.

Ahern is a wealthy man but these assets are hidden abroad and has difficulty repatriating any of them, if he has a go at being Pres.
Obviously you have the inside story and the verifiable sources , do tell
 

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that will barely skim the surface of all the stink.
In Ireland, corruption thrives, because the media is part of the racket.

In fact the Irish media presides over the mess that is the HSE, and says that none of it is due to the social mores pushed by the Irish media, in relation to the national drug - due to the advertising revenue that gets pumped into the Irish media, as "product promotion".

And that was the case in the 1970s, when there was very little money in Ireland.

It is much, much worse now.
 

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I agree with Stanley, concerning the money abroad.

Several maFFia big names in that situation.

And they are returning politically - thanks to increasing influence in PRAVDA, which is the result of appointments made in recent years.
 

Ardillaun

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Not necessarily a post colonial mindset, in Transparency International's 2017 Report three of the top 10 countries perceived to be the least corrupt are former colonies eg Norway, Finland and Singapore.
Norway was more like Scotland than Ireland when it merged with Sweden. It kept its own institutions and was allowed to become independent when it voted to do so. Roman Catholicism is no longer a significant force in Ireland so we can't blame it any longer; it's time to look at ourselves, our culture and our laws. As pointed out above, we need to get serious about white collar crime. That means plea bargaining and new laws on racketeering among many other reforms. A free press would be nice but Paddy will have to toughen up about his precious good name before that could be possible. We're also secretive about our earnings. Norway has a cure for that too - tax returns are published.


Imagine the effect that has when you're about to spin some yarn to the taxman which the neighbours could see through instantly. The Norwegians now let taxpayers know who has looked at their returns. I'm not sure about that reform. Anyway, this is the cost of minimizing corruption - more candour from everybody.
 
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Errr , the Irish legal system is that black beating heart of Irish corruption ...And most of what is wrong with this state
The legal system does not fail. It does what it sets out to do, what the Jesuits always told the rugger buggers that it should do, that is protect the rich and powerful from any criticism or from any need to fear that the law would actually apply to them. The rugger buggers dont fail to apply the law to the rich, they succeed in ensuring that that the law is only for the little people. It is statistically impossible that every legal decision eventually goes in favour of the richest party, but it does.
 

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Its also (as highlighted by the Troika but funnily the only reform ignored ..what a surprise :roll:) a plaything for the rich and powerful and out of the reach of most citizens as a route to justice ...allowing the rich and powerful to behave with impunity ...all by design
Remember the ex-Attorneys General riding to the rescue of the bankers when TDs nearly developed a spine by holding a referendum to give Dail committees some power todo what the legal eagles will never do i.e hold a rugger bugger to account. One of the ex-AGs once pretended to be a member of the Connolly's Labour Party! Jesus wept!
 

General Urko

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If you think Ireland isn't corrupt look at what The Ass hole Political class are trying to do in destroying state old age pension entitlements, while feathering their own obscene pension nests!
 

General Urko

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Re politicians crying that bheir families are being targetted in door step protests - Bollex, sure the first thing on the agenda once elected for most of them is get the spouse and adult children in well paid admin jobs as their assistants!
 


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