Corsican push for autonomy intensifies today

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Corsican nationalism is, perhaps, the most underappreciated political force in Europe today, despite winning the last regional election and three out of four National Assembly seats. Today, an administrative reform sees the island's two départements merged into a collectivité territoriale, and thus a new regional election is being held.

The ruling autonomist coalition Pé a Corsica is an alliance of two regionalist parties seeking a formal Statute of Autonomy negotiated with Paris, and the recognition of the endangered Corsican language (related to Italian) through official status. They are opposed by the pro-independence group, Rinnovo, which seeks an immediate independence referendum.

Of the mainland parties, the two centre-right lists have been weakened by the failure of les Républicains to recognise either grouping, while the jailing of a Socialist ally on corruption charges sees the beleaguered party sitting out this campaign. That said, FN have a similar strength on the island as in the neighbouring Provence-Alpes-Côte-d'Azur, En Marche are confident of establishing a regional presence, while France Insoumise and the Communists have, for once, submitted a joint list.

Élections territoriales en Corse : ce qu'il faut savoir avant le scrutin du 3 décembre

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corsican_territorial_election,_2017
 


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Corsican nationalism is, perhaps, the most underappreciated political force in Europe today, despite winning the last regional election and three out of four National Assembly seats. Today, an administrative reform sees the island's two départements merged into a collectivité territoriale, and thus a new regional election is being held.

The ruling autonomist coalition Pé a Corsica is an alliance of two regionalist parties seeking a formal Statute of Autonomy negotiated with Paris, and the recognition of the endangered Corsican language (related to Italian) through official status. They are opposed by the pro-independence group, Rinnovo, which seeks an immediate independence referendum.

Of the mainland parties, the two centre-right lists have been weakened by the failure of les Républicains to recognise either grouping, while the jailing of a Socialist ally on corruption charges sees the beleaguered party sitting out this campaign. That said, FN have a similar strength on the island as in the neighbouring Provence-Alpes-Côte-d'Azur, En Marche are confident of establishing a regional presence, while France Insoumise and the Communists have, for once, submitted a joint list.

Élections territoriales en Corse : ce qu'il faut savoir avant le scrutin du 3 décembre

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corsican_territorial_election,_2017
This has flown completely under the radar. Thanks for the update!
 

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UK, Catalonia, now Corsica. Ha ha jean-claude Van Damm Juncker...you kickboxer bully. Looks like all the little fellas in the class are ganging up on you.

next, Greece to leave the EU.
 

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UK, Catalonia, now Corsica. Ha ha jean-claude Van Damm Juncker...you kickboxer bully. Looks like all the little fellas in the class are ganging up on you.

next, Greece to leave the EU.
Greece should have got out of the Eurozone when the crisis started in 2011. They could have defaulted on their debts ( which is what they did anyway for generstions ) & pressed the reset with a new Drachma.

It would have been 18 months of hell instead of an entire generation if it.
 

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First estimation of results, according to Ipsos France:

Pé a Corsica: 46.7%
Local centre-right list: 14.6%
Centre-right list 2: 11.7%
En Marche: 11.7%
Rinnovo: 6.5%
FI-PCF: 5.7%
FN: 3.1%

No seats are allocated in round 1, lists scoring 7% or more automatically progress to round 2, and ones scoring 5-7% qualify if merging with others. Certainly, a strong mandate for autonomy, and a notable setback for the FN, who won 10% here two years ago. Macron will be satisfied with his party's score, but Mélenchon would have set 10% as a benchmark.
 

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UK, Catalonia, now Corsica. Ha ha jean-claude Van Damm Juncker...you kickboxer bully. Looks like all the little fellas in the class are ganging up on you.

next, Greece to leave the EU.
The EU is undemocratic, illegitimate and has caused economic devastation and ethnic balkanization. All that is needed is a free trade area. It's time to end this imperialist project.
 

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Anybody got a Corsican flag?
 

Spirit Of Newgrange

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Corsican nationalism is, perhaps, the most underappreciated political force in Europe today,
yup. An insignificant bunch the Corsicans. I mean, i cannot imagine a little Corporal from there having much sway across Europe.
 

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Can't imagine this flag flying above city hall anytime soon....




:rolleyes:
 

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They voted against an autonomy package offered by Sarkozy, which was opposed both by unionists and separatists. The Constitutional Council/Court has obstructed past attempts to assist minority languages (full of political appointees like its Spanish counterpart).
 

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Can't imagine this flag flying above city hall anytime soon....




:rolleyes:
Why?

The Catalonian flag is less "culturally insensitive"?
 

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This childhood read left a big impression on me, probably my favourite of the Asterix books.




(Nope, i've nothing of value to add to the political discussion, just fancy visiting the place sometime on the basis of a comic book)
 

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I spent a week in Corsica summer just gone. You could sense some tensions simmering there.
I was in the former Yugoslavia a year before the war and a similar sense permeated.....
My French friend told me that Corsica has a serious gangland crime scene based around planning and property. He said that French people who dare buy a house in the island risk it being burned down. Lots of graffiti around the island proclaiming independence - a kind of tiocfiadh at la.
I enjoyed my week but count myself lucky that I hadn’t been killed in a road traffic accident - pure mad drivers with no respect for others. A strange wee place - not sure if I’d recommend it to anyone despite the natural beauty. Not the friendliest of folk but I suppose you can say that about the French even though Corsicana are clearly not French.
Lots of Muslims in the bigger urban centres which I believe are not too welcome by the locals. Probably the most insular place I’ve visited in a while

Will be interesting to see how this plays out. Even though the Corsicans don’t seem to be too fond of their French connections the French I’m told really like Corsica and enjoy going down for some island sunshine so I don’t think they'll walk away without a fight...

I didn’t hear any corse being spoken although I was told North Corsica is more italian and I was based in the south. I asked a question about the Corsican language to three people at the same time and got 3 different answers at the same time. One said that corse is spoken in some places but not very common - another said that there’s no such thing as Corsican that some people could speak Italian and the third said she didn’t know! I was more surprised by how uncomfortable they seemed to be than their uncertainty. Great place to get a pizza straight out of a wood fired oven!
 

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First estimation of results, according to Ipsos France:

Pé a Corsica: 46.7%
Local centre-right list: 14.6%
Centre-right list 2: 11.7%
En Marche: 11.7%
Rinnovo: 6.5%
FI-PCF: 5.7%
FN: 3.1%

No seats are allocated in round 1, lists scoring 7% or more automatically progress to round 2, and ones scoring 5-7% qualify if merging with others. Certainly, a strong mandate for autonomy, and a notable setback for the FN, who won 10% here two years ago. Macron will be satisfied with his party's score, but Mélenchon would have set 10% as a benchmark.
So over 50% between the pro-autonomy and pro-independence movements?
 

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the Corsicans seem to have a reputation for being a rough crowd. I wouldn't commit a crime that got me on the wrong side of popular opinion down there. You would be lucky to get out alive.
 

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Greece should have got out of the Eurozone when the crisis started in 2011. They could have defaulted on their debts ( which is what they did anyway for generstions ) & pressed the reset with a new Drachma.

It would have been 18 months of hell instead of an entire generation if it.
False.

Greeks don't pay their damn taxes. That is the beginning and the end of the Greek economic problem.

Leaving the EU and devaluing the Drachma is not a panacea.
 

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UK, Catalonia, now Corsica. Ha ha jean-claude Van Damm Juncker...you kickboxer bully. Looks like all the little fellas in the class are ganging up on you.

next, Greece to leave the EU.
Apples and oranges.

The UK wants to leave the EU, but Catalonia just wants to leave Spain, and Corsica wants to leave France.

The EU needs to adopt an approach that it is neutral about provinces/regions leaving existing members but make it clear that if they do EU membership will automatically devolve to them.
 


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