Could Communism Have Survived in Eastern Europe?

Sweet Darling

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What do you mean by 'your theory'?!

It's hardly contentious to point out that people aged 25 or younger don't have much wealth, is It? How would they?

Most people I know in that age group are studying, 'on their travels', or just starting their careers. Thats 1 in 3.

Now if 1 out of every 3 workers produces so little he is exempted from paying income tax,...well, it's not hard to work out why 10% own half the wealth or whatever.
Please remember you are trying to explain where money comes from to a lefty. If you have any sock puppets it might make it easier.
 


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Agreed, except you can't be the first in space, first man in space, and first to land on the moon (soviets), without a highly educated workforce. Ditto for applied rocket science and nuclear tech. These were astonishing achievements by any standards.



It was the Soviets who first mapped (and photed) the 'dark side' of the moon. The Soviet Academy of Sciences published the first atlas of the far side in 1960. Then in 1967 they published 'The Complete Map of the Moon'. Their words, not mine.

Check out the names predominant seas?

Cool map.
 

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Of course it could have survived, but with the vast bulk of the population living on potatoes and porridge and riding bicycles... And I don't think that's a runner if all the neighbouring countries had TV and cars and foreign holidays

Ireland survived in the 1800's on spuds. Life was kind of simple though. But hey! at one stage the population was 8Million. Unfortunately the Brits kept demanding rent.... and even after the potato crop failed they kept taking the rent... which was the corn crop.
So the question might be how well would they survive and how many... what size population would be supported.
 

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Communism could survive in post soviet countries like Poland if Russians would supply more vinegar. Polish people took well communism, they took well the lack of meat and sugar, they were still happy when just vinegar was left on markets' shelves. They got mad when the vinegar run out. Communists should have made more vinegar and they'd be grand.

Wladza dba o ludzi = The government cares for people


Vinegar


communism was super cool, as you got these fancy voucher supply monthly and you can buy a milk if you had enough of these, or you could exchange for sausage voucher with your neighbor. Not much meat, but nobody cared as there was not much meat available anyway.

Milk vouchers


Meat vouchers




And when meat finally arrived you could meet interesting people in the queue, no Amazon drone dropping you milk in exchange for vouchers, so no social isolation whatsoever.




Communism was super cool.
 

plaiteach_padraig

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No No and No, communism is a failed totalitarian ideology best confined to the dustbin of history.
Communism could survive in post soviet countries like Poland if Russians would supply more vinegar. Polish people took well communism, they took well the lack of meat and sugar, they were still happy when just vinegar was left on markets' shelves. They got mad when the vinegar run out. Communists should have made more vinegar and they'd be grand.

Wladza dba o ludzi = The government cares for people


Vinegar


communism was super cool, as you got these fancy voucher supply monthly and you can buy a milk if you had enough of these, or you could exchange for sausage voucher with your neighbor. Not much meat, but nobody cared as there was not much meat available anyway.

Milk vouchers


Meat vouchers




And when meat finally arrived you could meet interesting people in the queue, no Amazon drone dropping you milk in exchange for vouchers, so no social isolation whatsoever.




Communism was super cool.
The people standing in line for food may have wanted to shoot the premier, but I thank that line may have been longer. ;)
 

jmcc

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Agreed, except you can't be the first in space, first man in space, and first to land on the moon (soviets), without a highly educated workforce. Ditto for applied rocket science and nuclear tech. These were astonishing achievements by any standards.
Except that the rocket science depended heavily on captured German scientists and V weapon technology and chemistry. Nuclear technology similarly depended on captured German physicists and data and techiques obtained from the West via espionage.
 


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