Could Democratic Socialism be a solution for Ireland ?

Luigi Vampa

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Could Democratic Socialism be a possible solution for Ireland ?

The current economic crisis would never have occured if Ireland had been using a Democratic Socialist system.

Democratic socialism proposes that :

- Resources and wealth should be used to benefit all members of a society.
- Economic institutions should be controlled and owned by the public affected by them
- All members of a society should have an equal voice in the decisions that affect them.

(In contrast to the communist form of socialism in which an all-powerful government owns all the resources and industries, and decisions are made for the people instead of by them.)

A key goal of democratic socialism is an economy where resources are shared, rather than left in the hands of large private corporations as is often the case in a capitalist economy.

One way of accomplishing this would be worker owned and operated cooperatives.

Another option would be putting corporations under public ownership, and having them managed by both the consumers and the workers.

Extremely large industries, like energy, might require some type of government ownership or control, but the main goal would be to keep the economy under the control of the general public.

Could this system be a solution for Ireland, and if so, how would it work in practice ?
 


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I think when you have a problem of abuse of power and corruption like Ireland has, the Swiss system of more power to the people where the executive role is shared between several directly elected members is definitely appealing. I'm not sure Irish voters are politically mature enough for that kind of direct democracy, though it works perfectly fine is Switzerland.
 

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every political ideology claims to want and to deliver the resources being used to beneift all memebrs of society,. its how you get there thats relevant.
Ireland is a very open economy in an increasingly open world, so a model of democratic socialism would be hard to do
 

waterford

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Certainly there is a real need for change. The Capitalist system has succeeded in its drive for personal wealth and power. The sad thing is that national governments have worked hand-in-glove with the wealthy few to ensure the success of a system based on greed.

The important thing to remember is national governments have a choice to work in the public interest but have chosen not to.

I would like to see a system in operation which upholds social justice and fairness within society. I would like a government that understands the need to reform the political system in order to work in the national interest. I would like to see politicians surround themselves with 'advisers' from the private sector who have no vested interests in the out-come of said advice (it is unlikely a senior civil servant will advise a cut in his/her own salary)
We need to go back to basic values and this may be the time to do it. People do not need government to work cooperatives we need to go back to basic human values which belong in the communities we live in.
 

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Agreed. Representative 'democracy' has failed Ireland. It has proven itself too susceptible to vested interests and cronies. We need more input from people in how the country is run, not the IMF and certainly not developers. If people thing a FG/Lab coalition is going to sort our problems well then they are sadly mistaken.
 

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Agreed.

Agreed. Representative 'democracy' has failed Ireland. It has proven itself too susceptible to vested interests and cronies. We need more input from people in how the country is run, not the IMF and certainly not developers. If people thing a FG/Lab coalition is going to sort our problems well then they are sadly mistaken.
I totally agree with you RS...Labour and FG are just as bad as Zanu-FF.
 

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The problem is that for democracy of any kind really needs an educated population to make it work. Cael keeps bringing up the council system that sprung up during the German revolution while forgetting that the book and general (not just political) discussion clubs organized by the SPD were a huge part of working class life than. Nothing of the same exists in Ireland.
 

SevenStars

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People fetishize "democracy"...Someone was giving out to be the other day for being "against democracy" so I asked them did they vote in elections and of course they werent even registered...How many people dont vote in Ireland, how many people who do vote believe in means much?...Some democracy...
 

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I believe that defaulting is imminent. It is only a matter of time.
When we default there will be a lot of anger with the capitalist system and people will be searching for alternatives.

Democratic socialism will be a fantastic system for Ireland.
I just don't know if the Irish people will be open to it. It will require a massive shift in thinking.

Many hear socialism and consider it to be communism and have a fear of it for that reason alone. If those people would overcome their fear and take a closer look at democratic socialism they may be very likely to embrace it.
 

kerryind

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Dont know but we need a new system not markets that can be influenced by political statements.
 

RetiredProvo

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That's why I visited the country some years back to get first hand knowledge of how the system worked;)
 

kerryind

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well did u enjoy it. Was Mr Gaddafi nice to you. Did he let you bring back some ak 47 sweeties for hes comrades on this island.
 

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well did u enjoy it. Was Mr Gaddafi nice to you. Did he let you bring back some ak 47 sweeties for hes comrades on this island.
Enjoyed it immensely thanks, didn’t get to meet the Colonel myself as I was there on holiday..
 

kerryind

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well i think i may ask you to send me on a tarvel brochure may be going there myself couldnt get robbed more anywhere else in the world than here.
 


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