Could The Officials and Provisionals Split Have Been Prevented?

General Urko

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The IRA Split must have been a victory in the heads of The British Security forces back in the day. Is there any way it might not have happened and what would that have changed what was to follow?
It was striking the The Sinn Féin/IRA were very mindful of further splits and bringing as many as possible with them on their journey to finalizing The GFA!
I reckon even without the grand split, micro splits would inevitably have happened due to Egos and Self-Righteousness.

https://stairnaheireann.net/2014/01/11/1970-ira-splits-into-officials-and-provisionals-provos/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_Irish_Republican_Army

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provisional_Irish_Republican_Army

The Official IRA

https://www.historyireland.com/20th-century-contemporary-history/the-lost-revolution-the-story-of-the-official-ira-and-the-workers-party/
 


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The irony is that the Provisionals were founded by more conservative and Catholic elements of the IRA whereas the Officials tended to be sympathetic to Marxism. Today the Provisionals support abortion on demand and transgenderism.
 

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The irony is that the Provisionals were founded by more conservative and Catholic elements of the IRA whereas the Officials tended to be sympathetic to Marxism. Today the Provisionals support abortion on demand and transgenderism.
The current Shinners are the Stickies were out the redeeming features. The Stickies now are actually far more Nationalist than the Provies- they believe in an independent Ireland which means wanting Brussels and the United States out.
 

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You want to read about the development of the republican movement during this period then get this -

 

General Urko

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You want to read about the development of the republican movement during this peeriod then get this -

Already have done and one of the big features of it was how The British Security Forces loved the all out war between the 2 when it broke out, mind you the Provos were well on top, during it!
 

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Lets do this very slowly for Urko et al.

When the Loyalists burned Ardoyne, and the RUC turned a blind eye, no one needed to hear how the arsonists were also just oppressed members of the proletariat like their victims.
 

General Urko

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Lets do this very slowly for Urko et al.

When the Loyalists burned Ardoyne, and the RUC turned a blind eye, no one needed to hear how the arsonists were also just oppressed members of the proletariat like their victims.
And ------------------?
 

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The irony is that the Provisionals were founded by more conservative and Catholic elements of the IRA whereas the Officials tended to be sympathetic to Marxism. Today the Provisionals support abortion on demand and transgenderism.
And they are suking the tits of the EU.
 

Glenshane4

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The IRA Split must have been a victory in the heads of The British Security forces back in the day. Is there any way it might not have happened and what would that have changed what was to follow?
It was striking the The Sinn Féin/IRA were very mindful of further splits and bringing as many as possible with them on their journey to finalizing The GFA!
I reckon even without the grand split, micro splits would inevitably have happened due to Egos and Self-Righteousness.

https://stairnaheireann.net/2014/01/11/1970-ira-splits-into-officials-and-provisionals-provos/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_Irish_Republican_Army

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provisional_Irish_Republican_Army

The Official IRA

https://www.historyireland.com/20th-century-contemporary-history/the-lost-revolution-the-story-of-the-official-ira-and-the-workers-party/
I think that the split was inevitable. Many nationalists in Eire wanted the Catholic people of Northern Ireland to let ourselves be walked over so that the nationalists of Eire would find it easier to make friends with the Prods and,in that way, get a united Ireland. Garret Fitzgerald was of that mentality, likewise Sean Lemass. The more extreme holders of this outlook were what became the Stickies.

Many Catholics in Northern Ireland did not want to be oppressed in the pursuit of a united Ireland. Hence the split. Now what was Provisional Sinn Fein has gone Sticky.
 

Northsideman

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And there's a lot of tits over there!:rolleyes:
Indeed but not just over there, some of the main cheer leaders and bitches are right here and ready and willing it take it bareback and any which way.
 


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