Council spent 38 million buying 153 houses won't divulge where

Karloff

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The Herald reports that Dublin City Council spent 38 million last year buying 153 houses to be used for social housing but won't disclose where.

That works out at around 250k a house, for social housing?

They won't reveal where these houses are which is also strange. Their argument was quite strange - said they wanted to spread social housing around the city instead of concentrating it - in neighbourhoods were homes go for half a million a pop?

Could it be that these houses will benefit immigrants or other priveleged groups and that this is the reason why they won't tell us where they are, because they don't want us finding out. I know that Joan Burton once said that she didn't want immigrants living in ghettoes.
 
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Wide open to corruption, councils seem to think they can do what they like with no recourse to anybody. Fingal co co bought a house a no. of years ago for 400K in a rural area and put a self declared ethnic minority into it.
 

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The Herald reports that Dublin City Council spent 38 million last year buying 153 houses to be used for social housing but won't disclose where. That works out at around 400-500k a house, for social housing?

They won't reveal where these houses are which is also strange. Their argument was quite strange - said they wanted to spread social housing around the city instead of concentrating it - in neighbourhoods were homes go for half a million a pop?

Could it be that these houses will benefit immigrants or other priveleged groups and that this is the reason why they won't tell us where they are, because they don't want us finding out. I know that Joan Burton once said that she didn't want immigrants living in ghettoes.

When it was revealed some years ago that Fingal Co Co had bought a number of 'social' houses in a certain part of Donabate, the neighbours went ballistic! Mind you, these days living beside 'social' housing might be good grounds for lowering your house valuation for LPT purposes!
 

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These Councils need to be subject to far more public scrutiny.

Pressure your local councillors because these councils are literally spending others hard earned taxes.
 

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This real, wont be surprised if it is.
 

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County Councils are towering giants of incompetence , waste, cute hoorism and corruption, totally lacking in any form of accountability ....pity because I would like strong accountable local government providing services ..... but they are beyond redemption , institutionally beyond saving
 

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Joan Burton doesn't want immigrants living in ghettos but its okay for Irish people to live on the streets. We build hardstands for itinerants so why not do the same for immigrants so that they can integrate with practicing Catholics. Devout Muhammadans and Christians living side by side is the way of equality.
 

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These Councils need to be subject to far more public scrutiny.

Pressure your local councillors because these councils are literally spending others hard earned taxes.
No accountability at all in local councils, they steam roll local businesses and rate payers on a regular basis often causing huge problems for the business. The unelected officials in the council have immense power, far more than any councillor. They are unelected but have immense power in many areas from social to economic that effect the local community. They pretend that they listen now and then with a "Consultation process" which usually ends up with the views of the public being completely ignored.


Id be in favour of a system that is in place in many American states, where the head of housing, planning etc would have to be elected by the public every four of five years. The current system with zero accountability serves nobody, often people who have been proven to be incompetent are left in positions that have a high importance.
 

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A policy seems to exist where Refugees are put into mature middle class estates, that's what seems to be the policy in Tralee.
 

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The Herald reports that Dublin City Council spent 38 million last year buying 153 houses to be used for social housing but won't disclose where.

That works out at around 400-500k a house, for social housing?

They won't reveal where these houses are which is also strange. Their argument was quite strange - said they wanted to spread social housing around the city instead of concentrating it - in neighbourhoods were homes go for half a million a pop?

Could it be that these houses will benefit immigrants or other priveleged groups and that this is the reason why they won't tell us where they are, because they don't want us finding out. I know that Joan Burton once said that she didn't want immigrants living in ghettoes.
You're figures are off.

It's 250,000 a house give or take.
Not saying it's right or wrong but your estimates are nearly double.
 

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is there anywhere one can find details on where refugees are being settled?
I've noticed a big increased here in Cork of Hijab wearing lasses and clearly non national, Africans etc
as far as I can see the hostels here (I work for a charity) are full with refugees. any time I visit there are crowds of non nationals going about their business.
 

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is there anywhere one can find details on where refugees are being settled?
I've noticed a big increased here in Cork of Hijab wearing lasses and clearly non national, Africans etc
as far as I can see the hostels here (I work for a charity) are full with refugees. any time I visit there are crowds of non nationals going about their business.
This came up in kerry county council a few weeks ago, a councillor who was supportive of Refugees asked could the council inform the people where they were being placed or inform the councillors so that local communities could prepare a welcome.

He was told no that it was being handled with the upmost "discretion" and "sensitivity" so that they could settle in the new surroundings. Translation is the locals are not as open arms as one might think from watching RTÉ and reading the IT, if the natives many of whom have been on housing lists for years found out that they were getting houses they could only dream of, and a limitless cheque book, when they are told no funding when they want a mobility grant or a modest repair. Then they may not be as tolerant or welcoming as the champagne socialists want them to be.
 

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No accountability at all in local councils, they steam roll local businesses and rate payers on a regular basis often causing huge problems for the business. The unelected officials in the council have immense power, far more than any councillor. They are unelected but have immense power in many areas from social to economic that effect the local community. They pretend that they listen now and then with a "Consultation process" which usually ends up with the views of the public being completely ignored.


Id be in favour of a system that is in place in many American states, where the head of housing, planning etc would have to be elected by the public every four of five years. The current system with zero accountability serves nobody, often people who have been proven to be incompetent are left in positions that have a high importance.
I can understand the demarcation which has to exist between councillors and council officials. That demarcation is required to try to prevent overt political interference in council administration.

However there needs to be far more accountability regarding expenditure of the public funds by council officials.
 

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I can understand the demarcation which has to exist between councillors and council officials. That demarcation is required to try to prevent overt political interference in council administration.

However there needs to be far more accountability regarding expenditure of the public funds by council officials.
It doesn't work here many council officials have clear political agendas and are alligned with one party or another, I favour getting rid of councillors and directly electing council officials.
 

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It's f all to do with immigrants etc and all to do with councils and local govt in general being unaccountable. The Irish system of local govt is a joke with county engineers with a crazy level of powers and central funding dictating the way things are done. I remember Kerry CC selling off its waste collection service and it wasn't even revealed what it was sold for to local councillors themselves who tabled the question. Something to do with " commercial disclosure " clause . Unbelievable , wouldn't happen anywhere else .
 

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The Herald reports that Dublin City Council spent 38 million last year buying 153 houses to be used for social housing but won't disclose where.

That works out at around 400-500k a house, for social housing?

They won't reveal where these houses are which is also strange. Their argument was quite strange - said they wanted to spread social housing around the city instead of concentrating it - in neighbourhoods were homes go for half a million a pop?

Could it be that these houses will benefit immigrants or other priveleged groups and that this is the reason why they won't tell us where they are, because they don't want us finding out. I know that Joan Burton once said that she didn't want immigrants living in ghettoes.
That works out at you requiring to go back to remedial maths. I make that close to €250k per dwelling.
 

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It's f all to do with immigrants etc and all to do with councils and local govt in general being unaccountable. The Irish system of local govt is a joke with county engineers with a crazy level of powers and central funding dictating the way things are done. I remember Kerry CC selling off its waste collection service and it wasn't even revealed what it was sold for to local councillors themselves who tabled the question. Something to do with " commercial disclosure " clause . Unbelievable , wouldn't happen anywhere else .
The corruption in local authorities is rampant, along with nepotism and lack of accountability means it's s perfect environment to flush huge amounts of tax payers money down the loo.
 

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You're figures are off.

It's 250,000 a house give or take.
Not saying it's right or wrong but your estimates are nearly double.
So it is. Thanks for the correction. That's an average though.
 

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The Herald reports that Dublin City Council spent 38 million last year buying 153 houses to be used for social housing but won't disclose where.

That works out at around 400-500k a house, for social housing?

They won't reveal where these houses are which is also strange. Their argument was quite strange - said they wanted to spread social housing around the city instead of concentrating it - in neighbourhoods were homes go for half a million a pop?

Could it be that these houses will benefit immigrants or other priveleged groups and that this is the reason why they won't tell us where they are, because they don't want us finding out. I know that Joan Burton once said that she didn't want immigrants living in ghettoes.
Please please let one of these houses be next door to Sean Moncreffe or Amo Dunphy who love banging out there liberal views. Let them live beside what there liberal views inflict on the little people in the cheap areas.

Come the revolution
 

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Been watching it here since last year, loads of muslims, getting free driving lessons, then the free cars, then the scumbag D4 Luvvies and media going ape and throwing out racist labels all over the shop while they fook off back to their ivory towers.

Same ould debate, Refugees for Luvvies should be a political party in its own right across the Western World, from George Clooney housing a few hundred in some of his many mansions to putting Gimmiemore and his ilk into social housing, stripping him of the pensions and payoffs so he can practice what he preached, don't get me started on Mary of the many pensions Robinson,

Joe Soap has had enough of these bullsh1tters hawking guilt from their mansions and blaming native people in their own Country for daring to question basic economics and identity in their OWN Country.

Sure we should be throwing that pretender in the Aras into Ballymun (no offence to the people of Ballymun ) and he can write his utter sh1te all day long and send condolences to some other dictator.

Fake news, uber liberal, bubble living sh1tehawk ideology is over, they reap what they sow and harvest time is coming.
 


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