Council to bypass Gormley hurdle to proceed with incinerator

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Headline in tomorrow's Irish Independent is entitled "Council snub means Gormley can't stop incinerator". I've not seen the text of the article, but I understand that the council is advertising tomorrow for a Compulsory Purchase Order for land (which is owned presently by Dublin Port). The implications of the CPO is that the Poolbeg Incinerator won't actually need a foreshore licence in order to operate.

The implications of this are rather evident, rather than waiting for John Gormley's department to grant the licence for the foreshore licence Dublin City Council has found a means of bypassing the Minister.

Whilst the foreshore licence wasn't needed for construction of the incinerator, was originally to be required before it could be used. This CPO means the licence won't be necessary, meaning that Gormley won't be able to block the construction of the incinerator.

That said, Gormley and his department have insisted that they're not blocking the construction of the incinerator by not granting the foreshore licence - claiming the application is amongst a range of other applications not yet processed by the department.
 


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Then I'm sure Mr Gormley will be happy to have one less application to deal with, and that he'll be glad to have more time to address the management deficiencies which have led to such an application backlog in his department.
 

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that was in the paper today.... monday.
 

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now yesterday
 

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If Gormley is remembered at all, it will be as the green minister for the environment who had so little influence, let alone power, that he could not stop a toxic power plant to burn rubbish in his own city centre constituency which made recycling uneconomic for years ie an absolute failure.
 

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If Gormley is remembered at all, it will be as the green minister for the environment who had so little influence, let alone power, that he could not stop a toxic power plant to burn rubbish in his own city centre constituency which made recycling uneconomic for years ie an absolute failure.
Say's it all... :rolleyes: No need to be wasting anymore ink or print on gormley !
 

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Council's incinerator snub leaves Gormley powerless

So where to next Green Hypocrite?

A spokesman for the department said Mr Gormley could not comment on the move as he was precluded from doing so under the planning acts. But he said the taxpayer could be "massively exposed" to penalty payments if it goes ahead.
The company suggested it could sue for breach of contract if the plant did not go ahead. Around 600 construction jobs are promised and 60 full-time posts when it is completed.
Gormley is some tulip! We could be massively exposed to penalty payments. We are massively exposed to this already with his own brand of foolish green policy.

God be with the days of the lightbulb debacle. It was so simple and childish then...
 

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Good!

Gormless is a NIMBY!

He needs to do something about the ragwort infestation on our roadsides - that kills animals and it's removal is a legal requirement!
 

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He needs to do something about the ragwort infestation on our roadsides - that kills animals and it's removal is a legal requirement!
I can't believe this has been overlooked! Where are our priorities?! Jaysis wept.
 

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Ragwort, like most plants, produce seeds. The seeds can travel into neighbouring fields...
€35Billion in, €55Billion out. In one year.

Ragworth. You're a card.
 

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So all that stuff about the construction of the incinerator being delayed because of the foreshore licence was just bluster by DCC after all. In December they announced that they were beginning construction, without a foreshore licence, although very little work took place on site. At that time there were spinning that it was full speed ahead for the project, they certainly didn't indicate that the construction was dependent on the foreshore licence, which had always been referred to as a requirement for operation rather than for construction.

More recently they have been claiming that the delay in construction is all down to the lack of a foreshore licence, but now it's clear that this was a red herring given that they always had the option of applying for a CPO in any case.

So what has actually happened since December to effectively put the project on hold? The answer is the High Court judgement in January that overturned DCC's attempt to grant itself a monopoly on all waste collected in the Dublin region, and the power to direct it to the incinerator. DCC and Covanta know that the viability of the plant requires the Dublin local authorities to have access to ever-increasing volumes of waste over its 25-year lifespan. This is already extremely uncertain, and the High Court judgement means that DCC don't have the power to deliver on their side of the deal.

The judgement was pretty damning of DCC and how they went about varying their waste plan, but they are appealing it to the Supreme Court. In the meantime the project is effectively on hold. John Gormley is a convenient person to blame, especially given that he is proposing a waste policy which will reduce waste volumes and thus further undermine the viability of the incinerator. However it's important to remember that even if John Gormley weren't Minister for the Environment this project would still be in trouble.

Of course a different Minister for the Environment might be prevailed upon to stitch up a few things legally to ensure the project's viability.
 

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Is there any lawful way the Minister for the Environment can stop this project?
- subsidize recycling.
- starve dublik city council of cash until it cops on.
- reviews the development plan.
- overturn it in the courts?
 

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DCC and Covanta know that the viability of the plant requires the Dublin local authorities to have access to ever-increasing volumes of waste over its 25-year lifespan.
Really; and how would a plant accommodate ever increasing volumes of waste over 25 years? Plants are designed to operate at specific capacities with limited increase in capacity available. Puts everything you said into, perspective.
 

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I can't believe this has been overlooked! Where are our priorities?! Jaysis wept.
Muppet! dozens of horses, sheep and cattle are killed by Ragwort every year. It is the LAW for councils to remove it from verges. It is Gormless's responsibility as minister for the ENVIRONMENT that this is done.
 

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Is there any lawful way the Minister for the Environment can stop this project?
- subsidize recycling.
Which would trigger the penalty repayments and cost the council/state millions.

- starve dublik city council of cash until it cops on.
If Dub Council are being honest, he'd have to starve them of millions as that's what they'd be exposed to in the event of contract cancellation. Like all Greens, John's not allowed play with the money.

- reviews the development plan.
Done. Passed every hurdle at every turn.

- overturn it in the courts?
Attempted. Failed.

His only real hope is to rush through legislation on the matter, which isn't a runner either. This result is the best one he could hope for really. He's done everything within his power as minister to stop it. If it suceeds no one will notice. If it fails, yes he'll get blamed as not having stopped it, but he'll also be able to say he was fundamentally against it.
 

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Muppet! dozens of horses, sheep and cattle are killed by Ragwort every year. It is the LAW for councils to remove it from verges. It is Gormless's responsibility as minister for the ENVIRONMENT that this is done.
/MOD/ Completly off topic. Keep it to the matter at hand please. /MOD/
 

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So Gormley gets this issue off his desk but he can go to his constituents at the next election and rightly tell them that he did everything in his power to stop the incinerator. Everyone's a winner?

Hopefully the good people of Dublin South will still give Mr Gormley what he deserves at the next election - the boot.
 


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