Cowen defends €820,000 bill for advisors.

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Cowen has got six advisors.. What does he need six of them for?. What sort of advice do they give him?. Who are they?.


19/10/2010 - 15:16:07
Taoiseach Brian Cowen is today defending a wage bill of more than €800,000 a year for special advisors to him.

Mr Cowen told the Dáil that six special advisors cost the taxpayer €820,000 a year, one advisor less than in 2009.


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Well if he needs advisors to advise "in relation to all the work that has to be done across Government", what are the heads of departments for? Are they not there to advise him? Does he not get health advice from Mary...or finance advice from the Brian????

Ah well....I suppose he has to have some where for his mates to work.
 

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Spotty thinks that he's not getting great value. For that kind of money, Spotty would have thought one of them would be smart enough to advise him to pack it in.
 

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To be honest, I can't think of a politician more in need of advisors. Don't ministers have their own advisors also, and sometimes buy in the services of advisors in a specialised field?

It would help enormously, of course, if our Government was administered by Ministers who had experience in their portfolios from the real world and weren't constantly misled or badly advised by the same cabal of dusty seniors who've been in the job too long and acquired lots of bad habits.

Cowen needs all the advice he can get. Our only hope is that those whispering in his ear actually have some idea of what they're talking about.

But recent history tells another story . . .
 

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You'd expect that the fourth highest paid politician on Planet Earth would not need so many advisors. Presumably these figures are in addition to the recently advertised €17m that was announced in relation to taking financial advice from the very people who own the debt of Anglo-Irish.

What has gone wrong with Irish people I wonder? In times gone past the pikes would have been broken out by now and yet it isn't even happening in a metaphorical sense. Where is the anger? Are we all on doped up on drugs or something?
 

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Advisors undermine the permanent civil service, which partly explains the disastrous performance of the civil service in our economic meltdown. Ministers are guided in their decision making more by their advisors than the permanent civil service. The permanent civil servants would be slow to disagree with the advisors because they might be jeopardising their career prospects.

I believe it was Dick Spring who started to give enormous power to advisors when he appointed Fergus Finlay as his special advisor.
 

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Unaccountable faceless advisors with no political accountabiility whatsoever being paid an absolute fortune, yet still the country is in ruins.

Has anyone else copped onto the fact that Cowen is a complete idiot? He can't even think for himself, he has advisors to do the thinking for him.
 

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He should sack the lot of them given his crap ratings and image.
 

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You'd expect that the fourth highest paid politician on Planet Earth would not need so many advisors. Presumably these figures are in addition to the recently advertised €17m that was announced in relation to taking financial advice from the very people who own the debt of Anglo-Irish.

What has gone wrong with Irish people I wonder? In times gone past the pikes would have been broken out by now and yet it isn't even happening in a metaphorical sense. Where is the anger? Are we all on doped up on drugs or something?
If we're being screwed by outsiders, such as the Brits, we'll fight tooth and nail, suffer torture, imprisonment and death to get them off our backs. But being screwed by our own is okay. We don't mind that so much. After all, if we can afford to pay our leader more than the British, the Germans, the Americans or the Japanese then we must be better, richer, more generous and more tolerant.

Actually, we're just more stupid.

And that's why the daily rape continues.
 

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Here's a few more adviser's bills he's defending -

According to the Auditor Comptroller General, PricewaterhouseCoopers – the auditor of Bank of Ireland and Quinn Insurance – has received €5.5 million in fees for services rendered to the Government as it grappled with the banking crisis. This, no doubt, includes the 2008 PwC report saying the banks were all adequately capitalised. KPMG (auditor to AIB and Irish Nationwide) got €2 million while Ernst and Young (the former Anglo Irish Bank auditor) got €240,000. Deloitte, the last of the big four and current Anglo Irish auditor got €420,000.

http://www.politics.ie/culture-community/140699-john-mcmanus-asks-what-taxpayer-got-bank-audits.html

He would have done less damage getting his advice at the Citizens' Information.
 

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IRELAND , all advisors no doers.
 

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F**k me. Can this shower not think for themselves. At every damn turn firing blame in every direction except their own. Did the Fianna Fail mammies not teach them to look after the bloody pennies. They have to a man back scuttled this country and then come back for more.
 

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Cowen has got six advisors.. What does he need six of them for?. What sort of advice do they give him?. Who are they?.




Taoiseach defends
Why don't they just get rid of him and put one of these advisors as Taoiseach. Sounds like the decisions are being made by unelected representatives anyway.
 

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If we're being screwed by outsiders, such as the Brits, we'll fight tooth and nail, suffer torture, imprisonment and death to get them off our backs. But being screwed by our own is okay. We don't mind that so much. After all, if we can afford to pay our leader more than the British, the Germans, the Americans or the Japanese then we must be better, richer, more generous and more tolerant.

Actually, we're just more stupid.

And that's why the daily rape continues.
Indeed, one irishman would cut another irishman's throat in a instant, but if someone else tried it there'd be hell to pay, crazy little country.
 

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Very costly for Very Bad Advice
well it was the best available advise

Cowen - C'mere give us 240k worth of bad advise
E&Y - wouldn't you like some good advice
Cowen - Have you it available right now or would you need to ask me questions and do a study
E&Y - Well we would need to conduct a study of some kind
Cowen - Thats what i thought, just give me some advice of the top of your head... i can't wait
E&Y Your probably right our good advice is pretty crap too
Cowen - Right so hit me with the best available advice *wink* and remember i'll be looking for a few cosy directorships when it all goes bang
E&Y: ok so - Don't run with scissors
Cowen: I'll cut you a cheque - thanks
 

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That parrot's not dead, it's sleeping

well it was the best available advise

Cowen - C'mere give us 240k worth of bad advise
E&Y - wouldn't you like some good advice
Cowen - Have you it available right now or would you need to ask me questions and do a study
E&Y - Well we would need to conduct a study of some kind
Cowen - Thats what i thought, just give me some advice of the top of your head... i can't wait
E&Y Your probably right our good advice is pretty crap too
Cowen - Right so hit me with the best available advice *wink* and remember i'll be looking for a few cosy directorships when it all goes bang
E&Y: ok so - Don't run with scissors
Cowen: I'll cut you a cheque - thanks
Monty Python has a new script in development.
 

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Any chance they'd advise him to have an election, in the interests of the country. Or are they selective in the advice they give him.

I mean you don't want to p*ss the guy off, if you are getting well paid to offer advice.

In such cases, advisors are usually only Yes men. This was also no doubt the case in relation to the Glass Bottle Site. Give me the advice I want to hear or else, was probably his approach.
 


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