Cowen expected to announce on Tues whether or not he'll contest next General Election

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From RTE's Fergal Keane on the aul twitter, says that Brian Cowen is expected to tell the Offally Fianna Fail Cumann whether he will or won't be putting his name forward to be a candidate for the party in the General Election in Laois-Offaly.

Cowen will announce his decision, hours after going to Aras an Uachtarain to ask the President to dissolve the Dáil.

 


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cue constitutional difficulties post election with a maximum of only 6 Ministers prior to the voting in of the Government.
 

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So we will have more dynastic Fianna Fail politics next week. Take it, his brother with be on the ticket! So much for political reform from Michael Martin.
 

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So we will have more dynastic Fianna Fail politics next week. Take it, his brother with be on the ticket! So much for political reform from Michael Martin.
Does the brother resemble him or was it only Biffo who got the looks?
 

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cue constitutional difficulties post election with a maximum of only 6 Ministers prior to the voting in of the Government.
I don't think so. The Taoiseach and Ministers continue to hold Office until their successors shall have been appointed. Membership of the Oireachtas is not an issue. For example in 1992, the late John P Wilson continued as Tánaiste and a member of the Government until January 1993 while the FF-LAB negotiations went on.

So, yes Cowen will be in the Taoiseach's seat for the first part of the proceedings of the new Dail in March whether he is a TD or not!
 

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cue constitutional difficulties post election with a maximum of only 6 Ministers prior to the voting in of the Government.
Not unless one of the current cabinet members dies. Otherwise they will all still be in office until a new government is elected, no matter whether they're reelected to the Dáil or not.
 

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If he was runing he would have made it known by now IMHO. Why would a candidate lose out on one of only three weekends to canvass?
 

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This thread briefly had a more news-worthy (although incorrect) heading.......
 

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Decision could be a big factor in how many FF TDs are returned by Laois-Offaly. i.e the difference between 1 and 2.
 

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I understood the Taoiseach was constitutionally obliged to be a member of the Dail. That ceases the minute the election result is read out, not when the Dail convenes (???)
 

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I don't think so. The Taoiseach and Ministers continue to hold Office until their successors shall have been appointed. Membership of the Oireachtas is not an issue. For example in 1992, the late John P Wilson continued as Tánaiste and a member of the Government until January 1993 while the FF-LAB negotiations went on.

So, yes Cowen will be in the Taoiseach's seat for the first part of the proceedings of the new Dail in March whether he is a TD or not!
No he won't. He'll still be Taoiseach but won't be able to sit in the Chamber unless it's in the Public Gallery.
 

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I understood the Taoiseach was constitutionally obliged to be a member of the Dail. That ceases the minute the election result is read out, not when the Dail convenes (???)
That would be preposterous. What if all 15 cabinet members lost their seats at an election? Would we have no Government for 3 weeks after every election count? And don't say it would never happen - it happened in Canada in 1993

Don't be stupid.
 

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He won't be running.
He is having the Dail meet on Tuesday to deliver his farewell address in the Dail.
Otherwise he would dissolve before then and not give the leaders of all the opposition parties a television opportunity in the Dail on Tuesday.
 

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In theory, the only "inter regnum" where there will be no Taoiseach in place would be in the period of an hour between the convening of the Dáil by the clerk of the Dáil, and the vote on Taoiseach by the Dáil.

Something tells me the world won't fall apart in the interim. And in any event, Mary Coughlan as outgoing Tánaiste would make the decisions - should any legal issues arise in that hour, such as the outbreak of World War III, as some rather over-eager constitutional experts on here seem to expect
 

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He won't be running.
He is having the Dail meet on Tuesday to deliver his farewell address in the Dail.
Otherwise he would dissolve before then and not give the leaders of all the opposition parties a television opportunity in the Dail on Tuesday.
After ALL the stunts he's pulled don't be surprised if he will run.
 

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I understood the Taoiseach was constitutionally obliged to be a member of the Dail. That ceases the minute the election result is read out, not when the Dail convenes (???)
Yes, the Taoiseach is constitutionally required to be a member, and so is the Tánaiste, but they still remain in office until their successors are appointed, even if they cease to be TDs. It hasn't happened for a Toaiseach yet, but another poster gave you the example of former Tánaiste John Wilson who didn't stand in the 1992 election:
I don't think so. The Taoiseach and Ministers continue to hold Office until their successors shall have been appointed. Membership of the Oireachtas is not an issue. For example in 1992, the late John P Wilson continued as Tánaiste and a member of the Government until January 1993 while the FF-LAB negotiations went on.

So, yes Cowen will be in the Taoiseach's seat for the first part of the proceedings of the new Dail in March whether he is a TD or not!
There is a slight inconsistency, but no constitutional crisis looming.
 

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Don't worry about someone being in charge.

Mr. Chopra has the situation under control.
 

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From RTE's Fergal Keane on the aul twitter, says that Brian Cowen is expected to tell the Offally Fianna Fail Cumann whether he will or won't be putting his name forward to be a candidate for the party in the General Election in Laois-Offaly.

Cowen will announce his decision, hours after going to Aras an Uachtarain to ask the President to dissolve the Dáil.

He won't run. Back on the beer again. Reputed to have been on a major session last Friday Night.
 

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No one cares about what this defunct leader does run.
His party will be better if he goes so they conveniently forget the Fianna Fail connections between Anglo and Sean Quinn.
 


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