Cowen fury at BBC over 'when not whether' bailout claim - Sunday Independent

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How many are left in the bunker now that the Europeans are at the gate ? A Minister or two , a couple of bewildered backbenchers and some FF youth manning the barricades ?

Latest rumour is that Biffo has ordered everyone to leave the room - except Lenihan and Coughlan !
 


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When people take to the streets later this month/December marchers should include Independent newspapers and RTE in their protests. The Irish media (apart from a minority of journos) has been implicit in their support of this corrupt regime.
+ '000 Bang on the money
 

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Latest rumour is that Biffo has ordered everyone to leave the room - except Lenihan and Coughlan !
who then will offer terms of surrender, and what of the children gormless, eamon nice, michael lowry, quackie healy rae-we must think of the children
 

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not based on finnaun sheehans piece today where the biffo is cutting back-part of his austerity plan to placate the bondmarkets/enemy other than all non clara ffers
 

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If any of this money is used in a stimulus package the international lending body should administer it directly, completely independent of he government, Cowen & FF will dole it out to their useless friends who'll make a balls of it, that'll be another 20bn for the grandkids to take care of.
 

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When people take to the streets later this month/December marchers should include Independent newspapers and RTE in their protests. The Irish media (apart from a minority of journos) has been implicit in their support of this corrupt regime.

There are very few in the media who should escape blame. They practically all swayed with the theory that we were the envy of the world, and could teach others how to do it.Anyone with a modicum of intelligence would see it was a bubble built on sand. Oh the embarrassment of it all, as well as the pain.
 

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If any of this money is used in a stimulus package the international lending body should administer it directly, completely independent of he government, Cowen & FF will dole it out to their useless friends who'll make a balls of it, that'll be another 20bn for the grandkids to take care of.
I' be pretty sure that any bailout funds would be kept well away from the hands of the current or next Irish government. It would be used to plug the gaps in our banks and to pay for the large scale redundancies in the public service.
 

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Surely being able to borrow from the EU at 5% (or less) is better than borrowing on the open market at 8 or 9%? If discussions have taken place, why is our government going out of its way to deny it?
Borrowing from the EU will involve very strict conditions (different to, but of the same scale that were employed in Greece) meaning that we will have a puppet government simply enacting EU policies. Some people might consider that a bad thing because it's likely, to mean major cuts in welfare and the public service, but anyone with any kind of idea of what needs to be done will welcome it.
 

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This bailout surely has to be the final catalsyt to wipe out this party.
They have destroyed us, Cowen might be angry at the BBC, we are bloody more angry at him, doesn't he get it.
 

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Borrowing from the EU will involve very strict conditions (different to, but of the same scale that were employed in Greece) meaning that we will have a puppet government simply enacting EU policies. Some people might consider that a bad thing because it's likely, to mean major cuts in welfare and the public service, but anyone with any kind of idea of what needs to be done will welcome it.

exactly... unlike our political parties they will take on every group and do whats best to return us to growth
 

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Show me where he ever admitted he was drunk as you said he did, otherwise you're a liar, end of.

Tonic, givien the fact that these are the dying days of this cancerous regime can you not now at this late stage bring yourself to critise their actions? Please show us theres some hope for the future.
 

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exactly... unlike our political parties they will take on every group and do whats best to return us to growth
Exactly, we have proven ourselves to be incapable of running our own affairs. We need outside intervention to get us back in a fit condition.
 

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I don't understand Cowen's and the Sindo's reluctance to let Irish public know the truth about the impending EU bailout. Perhaps it is hard to change the habit of trying to fool the public and lying has become their main focus. :confused:
 

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This bailout surely has to be the final catalsyt to wipe out this party.
They have destroyed us, Cowen might be angry at the BBC, we are bloody more angry at him, doesn't he get it.
Wishful thining buddy but FF will not be wiped out. We are proving once again that we are there in our nation's direst hour all thanks to the able bodied men and women that we elect to serve.

Write us off at your peril.
 

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Tonic, givien the fact that these are the dying days of this cancerous regime can you not now at this late stage bring yourself to critise their actions? Please show us theres some hope for the future.
another whining Blueshirt. I dread to think if Enda was running the show now. There would be anarchy and chaos. The country would collapse.
 

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I smile when I hear our seasoned politicos of all hues talk of the reputational damage a bailout will cause!
Surely one has to have a reputation first,before you loose it???
 

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another whining Blueshirt. I dread to think if Enda was running the show now. There would be anarchy and chaos. The country would collapse.

You're right- we would be in negative equity and the EU might have to intervene !
 


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