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Cowen slaps down Gormley. Is an election imminent?


Do you think a General Election is likely before Christmas?

  • Yes

    Votes: 50 44.2%
  • No

    Votes: 63 55.8%

  • Total voters
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Baron von Biffo

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Gormley was on RTE Radio1 at lunchtime pushing his naive notion of a National Government to put in place a 4 year economic plan. He claimed that Cowen was supportive of his position. Within minutes a clip of Cowen rubbishing the idea was played. Surely even the doormat Greens can't tolerate such a public humiliation. Is a general election imminent?
 

jpc

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One would suspect that the wheels are off the coalition wagon.
Is anyone in there actually communicating?
Or is a Green brainfart responded to with a mumble of derision?
 
B

Boggle

The greens have been humiliated so often that I'd doubt one more humiliation would mean much to them. As long as they get their money, they're grand.
 

Bill D Gallows

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Gormley was on RTE Radio1 at lunchtime pushing his naive notion of a National Government to put in place a 4 year economic plan. He claimed that Cowen was supportive of his position. Within minutes a clip of Cowen rubbishing the idea was played. Surely even the doormat Greens can't tolerate such a public humiliation. Is a general election imminent?
You might think they would head for an election after such a humiliation, but when did you ever see a (organic free range) turkey vote for Christmas.

If you apply the logic that the Greens have spouted, then in the absence of their proposal on such an important matter being entertained, they would be as honorable as they make out and go to the people.

Yeah right....
 

Asparagus

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Heres the future john -

Cowen on News at One in 5 months time
"A ban on Corporate donations? yeah we won't be going there"

Next day Cowen is photographed at a coursing fundraiser..

Give up the false mandate you ould fool - you have been ridden ragged by the laziest and stoopidest taoiseach of them all.
 

Expatriot

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The real sickener is that none of them will walk and some meaning statement will tell us they actually agree even though the cat knows they are hardly talking. We now have the Greens and Leo telling us what what consensus the next Dail will have to reach. At least Cowen and Gilmore have some sense.
 

Expatriot

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At least the Greens got all their landmark decisions through the Dail before selling to country to bankers etc.

Lord mayor, local gov, corporate donations, waste management, planning, public transport and education all secure. Oh no, wait. Where is that draft legislation again?
 

sport02

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Surely if the Greens want to limit damage to their party come the next general election, they need to walk.
 

Skrynesaver

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Interesting, the coalition has no mandate to set a 4 year budgetary strategy so to preserve a veneer of democracy a national government would prevent them going to the country.

The bould Biffo has no such qualms about democracy of course and having to take advice from blueshirts would pain him enormously, which in itself might be fun to watch but for the preservation of democracy an election is essential before setting a 4 year budget in place

As to the humiliation of the Greens, well they are FF's gimp @ this point, can't see what greater degradation they can endure, Shannon, Rossport, Tara and even confidence in wee willie - they're Brian's little pet at this point.
 

Baron von Biffo

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At least the Greens got all their landmark decisions through the Dail before selling to country to bankers etc.

Lord mayor, local gov, corporate donations, waste management, planning, public transport and education all secure. Oh no, wait. Where is that draft legislation again?
Don't mind that ould sh1te. Didn't Tweety get the Seanad nod from Bertie.
 

Grumpy Jack

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Gogarty is tweeting about the balmy weather of our Indian summer as if he hasn't a care in the world.

Maybe he's hoping it's going to last for the next month or so as he expects to spend a lot of time tramping the streets of Clondalkin and Lucan...
 

Disillusioned democrat

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Gormley was on RTE Radio1 at lunchtime pushing his naive notion of a National Government to put in place a 4 year economic plan. He claimed that Cowen was supportive of his position. Within minutes a clip of Cowen rubbishing the idea was played. Surely even the doormat Greens can't tolerate such a public humiliation. Is a general election imminent?
Oh - I'd say the Greens can tolerate a whole lorra humiliation still....they're so deep in the sh1te that the Brian's have fed them over the past two years that even a slap down feels like a helping hand. They've sold their soul - just like the insightful Ciaran Cuffee predicted - and are beginning to panic at the prospect at annilihation. Ironically I think people will be more brutal to the GP, whom they expected more from, as opposed to FF, because at least everyone know they couldn't trust FF.
 

the_rebubblican

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Sacrificing themselves in order to help the electorate pass judgement on a corrupting, cancerous FF party is the most honourable option for the Greens. They will be doing the state some service and it may enable them to reconnect with their core principles. It may save them in the very long run.

There may come a point where there's be a scramble for the first out the door, watch the independents waver...
 

sport02

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Me thinks, the Greens know there is more trouble ahead, that we Irish people know about yet.
You never know what just might be around the corner.
 

Asparagus

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Sacrificing themselves in order to help the electorate pass judgement on a corrupting, cancerous FF party is the most honourable option for the Greens. They will be doing the state some service and it may enable them to reconnect with their core principles. It may save them in the very long run.

There may come a point where there's be a scramble for the first out the door, watch the independents waver...
johngormley, danboyle et al have no real interest in the greenparty or the green agenda - they used it as a platform and now that they have destroyed the platform they will float back earth with the pension parachute that the fought so hard to protect.
 

jmcc

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I think that the Greens are cursed for their complicity in the descecration of Tara. Not even taking out FF can lift the imminent electoral apocalypse.

Regards...jmcc
 

turdsl

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Cowen is tribal Fianna Fail, he will not allow anyone else take credit for anything.
He wipes the floor with Gormley,
 

Macy

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If Gormley hadn't been so adamant about not having an election, the Greens could've spun it as they are walking because FF (and the opposition) aren't willing to work in the National Interest and at least given themselves a fighting chance in an election.

They probably still can if they move quick enough and force FF's hand.
 

Toland

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They will stay until the bitter end.
They will be shafted before the bitter end if it suits FF.

They'll have practically nothing to show for their time in Government.

What was it Lady Bagnall said about being dead, and the lessons one can learn from being in that condition?
 
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