Cows, not cars, to blame for most of Brazil's greenhouse gases.

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When most people think of the cause of greenhouse gases, they see images of factories and cars belching carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.

In Brazil, the blame is being put on cows and the ranchers who raise them.

According to a study by Brazilian university researchers published by the newspaper Folha de Sao Paulo, the cattle-farming sector accounted for one billion tones of Brazil's greenhouse gases in 2005, or half of the country's total.

The slash-and-burn deforestation of vast areas of the Amazon to make short-lived pastures is the worst contributor, followed by the methane released by cow burps and farts.

Not content with ruining their own environment, they are destroying our beef industry as well.
 


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The Climate Change Consensus brigade will go nuts when they find out there's research still going on

We need to look at trapping the gas anyway as it is useful:


In Argentina they found something similar:

Daily Telegraph Cow farts collected in plastic tank for global warming study
Scientists are examining cow farts and burps in a novel bid to combat global warming


The Argentine researchers discovered methane from cows accounts for more than 30 per cent of the country's total greenhouse emissions.
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Guillermo Berra, a researcher at the National Institute of Agricultural Technology, said every cow produces between 8000 to 1,000 litres of emissions every day.



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Lula wants to milk us for millions, the cow pics by cybpan are apt.

The new world, what a joke. He is in charge of the massive deforestation.

Interesting that depopulated russia has a massive forest
 

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The Climate Change Consensus brigade will go nuts when they find out there's research still going on
do you think people didn't know this?

even after the UN reports talking about the climate impacts of livestock over the last few years?

what about the various university resesarch programmes looking at alternative feeds?
 

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do you think people didn't know this?

even after the UN reports talking about the climate impacts of livestock over the last few years?

what about the various university resesarch programmes looking at alternative feeds?
cYp continues to believe that "scientific consensus" means that the scientists have agreed everything 100% and have no further interest in the subject. We have the same problem with the words "global warming" and "climate change" - people come to a view on what the words should mean, and then use that as the measure of reality.

A "scientific consensus" describes a situation where the science put out by multiple independent and competing research institutions all points in broadly the same direction. This happens because either: (a) there's worldwide collusion; or (b) the science is showing what's happening.

Just to clarify:



Also:

 
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Most cars in Brazil run on ethanol, which is distilled from sugar cane. It costs almost nothing compared to petrol. Last year when I was there, I filled up the empty tank when returning the hire car for €20. Petrol is not widely used by the majority of people.
 

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Relax....Toyota will have a hybrid cow out in no time.
 

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The whole car and oil industry is controlled, we know that and in Ireland we are hammered for just owning a car. I cant understand (well I can actually) why we are not in a pay-to-us mode, charge it at the pump/ltr for usage. to include road tax, etc. All this crap about taxing cars many of which spend 50%plus parked in expensive car parking area's or sitting outside offices and houses.

There are people that must have a car or maybe 2 in a family, there is no getting away from that when the double income double tax came in many years ago.

i was recently offered a very good deal from a mate who is emigrating. I could have bought his CL-500 Mercedes(1998) with only 68k miles on the clock, in mint condition for less then 6000 Euros. I don't do that much driving so I considered it..BUT when i checked the road tax at 1500 euros and insurance at 800 it was a non runner to have a car costing me about 200/month just to have sitting there...

Slightly off the thread, but all this scrappage schemes to buy more eco-friendly cars is a load of bull. Not everybody wants one of them, there are plenty of people who are quite prepared to drive more thirsty cars for there own reasons, instead of having this green agenda climate change crap rammed down their throats.

Maybe bigger cars are less fuel efficient, but as someone who does not smoke, and drinks little I don't mind putting a little more in the tank..(packet of fags at 8 euros and a pint at nearly 5..!)

Cows have been on this planet for a very long time, its a bit rich pointing the blame finger on them.

Next my steak and onions will be banned...for some bloody climate change reason

What is the world coming to, back to tree huts and caves.
 

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I have my doubts about the article on which the OP is based. The claim that Brazil's cows emit a billion tonnes of methane per year is patently absurd.:rolleyes:

Some experiments have been conducted in the USA, for example, and scientists there estimate that American cows fart and belch about six million tonnes of methane a year, which is about a quarter of total methane emissions in the USA. That, incidentally is an awful lot, given that methane is around thirty times more effective as a greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide.

The figure claimed for Brazilian cattle could only be true if the herd there is 160 times as big as the the one in the USA, which I doubt.

2. Impact Assessment: Methane Emissions

Or maybe Brazilian cows eat nothing but beans. You wouldn't want to be anywhere near me when I tuck into Bachelors. :lol::lol::lol:
 

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I have my doubts about the article on which the OP is based. The claim that Brazil's cows emit a billion tonnes of methane per year is patently absurd.:rolleyes:

Some experiments have been conducted in the USA, for example, and scientists there estimate that American cows fart and belch about six million tonnes of methane a year, which is about a quarter of total methane emissions in the USA. That, incidentally is an awful lot, given that methane is around thirty times more effective as a greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide.

The figure claimed for Brazilian cattle could only be true if the herd there is 160 times as big as the the one in the USA, which I doubt.

2. Impact Assessment: Methane Emissions

Or maybe Brazilian cows eat nothing but beans. You wouldn't want to be anywhere near me when I tuck into Bachelors.
I think it's actually a billion over a five year period, but it includes the effect of deforestation:

 

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The Climate Change Consensus brigade will go nuts when they find out there's research still going on

We need to look at trapping the gas anyway as it is useful:


In Argentina they found something similar:

Daily Telegraph Cow farts collected in plastic tank for global warming study
Scientists are examining cow farts and burps in a novel bid to combat global warming


The Argentine researchers discovered methane from cows accounts for more than 30 per cent of the country's total greenhouse emissions.
...
Guillermo Berra, a researcher at the National Institute of Agricultural Technology, said every cow produces between 8000 to 1,000 litres of emissions every day.



cYp
California targets dairy cows to combat global warming - Story | WNYW

cyp
 

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This has been the bovine in the room for decades in discussions on climate and pollution.

Another reason to eat way less beef.
 
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Cow Farts Have ‘Larger Greenhouse Gas Impact’ Than Previously Thought; Methane Pushes Climate Change

22%+8% and that's not including the effects of the associated deforestation required for the herds of cows
https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/overview-greenhouse-gases#methane

don't forget nitrous oxide emissions, often forgotten
https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/overview-greenhouse-gases#nitrous-oxide

Guess what? Turning vegan turns out to be probably the most effective and easiest way humanity could reduce the greenhouse effect on earth. So why is veganism so reviled? They are RIGHT!

I guess that proves the power of greed over common sense and ethics in the human species, not to mention self destructive stupidity on the part of consumers. "We like the taste of meat, so who cares whether it contributes hugely to the destruction of our only available common habitat"

If you care about saving our ecosystem. Go vegan now! With a cleaner conscience in that you are no longer incriminated in the horrific human holocaust of other species thrown in as a bonus. :)
 
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CO2 is essential and entirely natural. There is no science to say its harmful. Methane may or may not be harmful if released into the air unburned. Its not going away anytime soon. In Ireland the car is King so that we won't vote in anti car politicians
 


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