So lucinda will vote for a budget that she hasn't seen proposed by a government she doesn't trust to ensure a loan agreement, the terms of which she doesn't fully agree with, is committed to.
"The National Interest" seems to be heavily skewed against, not only the Irish person in general, but also principles of logic, sense, integrity and decency.
Lucinda you and 90% of your collegues wouldn't know the national interest if it tapped you on the shoulder and punched you in the face, before stealing your purse to buy food for its kids.
Go work as a barrister - you bring nothing to the national debate other than having people question the concept of universal sufferage.
Dublin SE - WTF happened there - are they messing with the water or what??
johngormley, Lucinda Creighton and Chris Andrews - political equivalant of used toilet paper.[/QUOTE]
A couple of months back there was a highly-publicised series of incidents of inadequate crowd control at the new Aviva Stadium. Indeed, there was a much-researched thread on this site.
As someone who had experienced the problems on three seperate occasions and on the latter, had feared serious injuries or even fatalities were probable unless drastic action was taken, I contacted the IRFU, Aviva stadium management and emailed each of the thee politicians plus Ruairi Quinn expressing my fears.
Quinn responded immediately to my mail and initiated actions of which I was kept informed. gormless's personal assistant(?) responded after about two weeks effectively telling me to leave the minister alone and not to bother him. Neither Creighton nor Andrews made any reply.
For the record, I do not support the concept of TD's being responsible for pot-holes and medical cards. Nor am I trying to derail this thread in any way. However, the possibility of someone being killed or maimed does strike me as a serious situation and the fact that LC has no concern about that nor about what the electorate might want in relation to the budget is significant commentry on her suitability as a politician and representative of people.
Fair enough, but if only the opposition does it, then you are giving free reign to FF.In broad terms I don't think the rigid application of whips always aids democracy and as such I would like to see more politicians of all persuasions being more open to standing up for what they think rather than simply sticking to what the whip tells them.
Creighton's piece doesn't demonstrate much independent thinking.Lucinda's and my own personal politics would be far apart .... but fair play to her for taking a full and public stance
Amazing how all the loyal party supporters who claim they would love to see and end to gombeenism, parish pump and insider politics resort to form as soon as someone is genuinely independently minded..... more independent speakers, speaking their mind and not timidly towing some party line in order to curry favour is whats needed in all parties and across the political classes
Well done Lucinda
Presumably, you meant maximum?The election is a minimum of a few months away - there is no question of the current Government being allowed to get us out of anything.
All the evidence suggests that Fine Gael will oppose the budget, among other things Creighton's solo run doesn't make sense if they don't and I think Noonan actually said as much, so I find people constantly repeating stuff like this very odd.Presumably, you meant maximum?
However, you are possibly right. The only reason that we think the election is near is because the Greens said so.
I am starting to feel that it is all just part of a longer con by the government. By holding out the carrot of an early election, FF/Gr get FG to de facto support the budget.
Once FG have trusted FF AGAIN, they will pull the carrot, as things will be nice and stable after Christmas.
Wow, this woman is scared. Scared of standing up against the elite, scared of standing up for the ordinary people and those that are marginalised. The proposed fiscal 'correction' and the EU/IMF loans, do nothing but serve to keep the political status quo on this island.In a blogpost on her website today, Fine Gael TD for Dublin South East writes that the budget needs to be passed in order to restore certainty into the economy.
Her website is down at present (something they're aware of), but they've passed on to me her post which is below in full.