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Croke Park Agreement to be extended to 2016!


Neutron

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LOL, is the best words I can find to describe this.

Brendan Howlin wants to extend the Croke Park Agreement on public service pay and reform to 2016 and make an additional €1 billion in savings.

Amazing and shocking and the best part is he only wants to find another billion!

Why 2016, Just to get you over the next election?

PUBLIC EXPENDITURE AND Reform Minister Brendan Howlin has said that he wants to extend the Croke Park Agreement on public service pay and reform to 2016 and make an additional €1 billion in savings.

The Minister was speaking ahead of planned meetings with public sector unions next week in a bid to make further savings through measures that would include staff in the public service working longer hours for the same pay.


Other issues likely to be raised by government are increments and whether or not they should be incorporated into core pay and premium pay rates with Howlin suggesting that there be no additional pay for Saturday working.


On Newstalk’s Breakfast programme he said that “Croke Park is delivering, it’s just not enough” but he insisted that the agreement had so far delivered all that it had set out to deliver, saying that the target of €3.5 billion in net savings by 2015 is still on track.


“Since the pay bill is 35 per cent of current expenditure, that’s where we’re looking,” he told the programme saying: “What I envisage is a three year further deal that will deal with all outstanding issues.”
Howlin wants to extend Croke Park to 2016 and make extra
 
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flibbles

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I honestly am not surprised by anything this government does anymore. It really does seem the only thing they will listen to at this point is a violent overthrow.
 

Disillusioned democrat

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Howlin - genetically "union" by birth, public sector by choice and leech by profession.

By 2016 he'll be entitled to a nice big pension and will probably step down for health reasons having left a trail of wasted opportunity in his wake.

What a tosser. (I know...I'm repeating myself - apologies.)
 

curiousorange

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They can sign deals, but it's only if the troika decide to keep the Irish public sector the best paid in Europe that such deals can be paid for. The bond markets certainly won't fund it.
 

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Can anybody confirm if Croke Park was based on assumed 3% growth figures?
This years planned 1.3% growth projection has been slashed by the government to .07%.
Others forecast .04% or flat.
NO WAY near 3%

Last years budget was formulated around a higher growth figure for 2012 than will be actualised.

Next years growth is also slashed.
We HAVE YET to get a bank debt deal.

We heard so much this year that we were waiting on Spain, Spain was our trump card for a bank deal but Gilmores wife under Croke Park gets a job created especially for her without interview at 117,000 euro per annum. And speaking of the Spanish that is exactly 50% more than the Spanish PM earns.

Rajoy salary 78,000 euro per annum.

Gilmore must get laughed at if he is ever trying to sweet talk europe for a deal. But he the biggest cheerleader for Croke Park.
 

Neutron

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I thought Fine Gael wanted to scrap the deal?

Have Labour given up on child benefit so they can protect the public service instead?
 

hmmm

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Labour want to make sure their friends are well looked after into the future, even if the government falls. I expect late night "tough" negotiations followed by the sight of union leaders trying not to smirk.

Meanwhile the private sector worker will be fleeced to pay for it all.
 

Dame_Enda

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Proof if any were needed that there are no lengths to which Labour will not sink to hold onto the public sector vote. That even those on six-figure salaries like the Third Level lecturers/officials like the chief librarian of UCC are not being touched demonstrates the increasing champagne-Socialism of that party. What happened to "to each according to his ability - from each according to his means" that Marxism was supposed to represent? :roll:
 

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If the CPA can deliver the required savings, what exactly is the issue?
The issue is, the country is bankrupt and cannot afford the CPA without the IMF/EU bailout
 

Pudna

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The issue is, the country is bankrupt and cannot afford the CPA without the IMF/EU bailout
I do not think Howlin is serious about extending the CPA, it is not for him to extend it, surely it is a cabinet decision, surely the other partners....namely ESB, Bord Gais and RTE representative body (known as IBEC) would also want to be involved in the divvying of taxes extorted from the public.
 

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The issue is, the country is bankrupt and cannot afford the CPA without the IMF/EU bailout
It depends what the 'CPA' is, and what it 'costs'.

If you are stating that the country cannot afford to spend any money on public services, you are wrong.

It can afford a certain level. The CPA could be amended to deliver that level.

I have a suggestion though, that some people are blinded by the words 'Croke Park Agreement' (and are also a bit thick) and therefore assume that if any agreement contains the words 'Croke', 'Park', and 'Agreement', automatically it must be a sop to the PS/blah blah blah.

Lets say we renegotiated a pay agreement that brought pay to sustainable levels, and called it 'The tin of peaches in syrup agreement'.
If a new Croke Park Agreement contained the same content as the tin of peaches in syrup agreement, would it be any less effective?
 

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