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Cut Starting Salaries In The Public Sector By 50-80% And Remove Allowances


YouKnowWhatIMeanLike

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To further protect high salaries and cushion existing privileged workers in the public sector the only way forward is to cut starting salaries and remove allowances. Alex White has warned that a deal on the Anglo Irish Bank debt will directly influence public service pay discussions and does not see any agreement on pay cuts if the Anglo Irish Bank deal fails.

By the White logic here the monies need to be found elsewhere to pay our public sector bill. How about cutting new starting salaries by 50-80%, remove allowances and increments? Our existing public sector workers need more pay than the rest of us because they deserve it. Also why does no Anglo Irish Bank deal means no pay cuts? shouldn't it translate to more cuts? A very sharp and twisted man this Alex White.
 

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To further protect high salaries and cushion existing privileged workers in the public sector the only way forward is to cut starting salaries and remove allowances. Alex White has warned that a deal on the Anglo Irish Bank debt will directly influence public service pay discussions and does not see any agreement on pay cuts if the Anglo Irish Bank deal fails.

By the White logic here the monies need to be found elsewhere to pay our public sector bill. How about cutting new starting salaries by 50-80%, remove allowances and increments? Our existing public sector workers need more pay than the rest of us because they deserve it. Also why does no Anglo Irish Bank deal means no pay cuts? shouldn't it translate to more cuts? A very sharp and twisted man this Alex White.
Alex White for Minister for Finance!
 

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May be there from Newstalk radio they talk sh1t like that every day.
 

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Here is a suggestion to save an absolute fortune.

Cut the amount thrown at gamblers holding Seanie Bonds. Cut it completely.

Time to give the Anglo Bondholders austerity.
 

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To further protect high salaries and cushion existing privileged workers in the public sector the only way forward is to cut starting salaries and remove allowances. Alex White has warned that a deal on the Anglo Irish Bank debt will directly influence public service pay discussions and does not see any agreement on pay cuts if the Anglo Irish Bank deal fails.

By the White logic here the monies need to be found elsewhere to pay our public sector bill. How about cutting new starting salaries by 50-80%, remove allowances and increments? Our existing public sector workers need more pay than the rest of us because they deserve it. Also why does no Anglo Irish Bank deal means no pay cuts? shouldn't it translate to more cuts? A very sharp and twisted man this Alex White.
So we should pay nurses 100 euros a week? About 3.00 an hour. Wouldn't they be on less than the minimum wage then? Can't see how this excellent suggestion would overcome that pesky obstacle.
 

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Here is a suggestion to save an absolute fortune.

Cut the amount thrown at gamblers holding Seanie Bonds. Cut it completely.

Time to give the Anglo Bondholders austerity.
how can you say such a thing the Anglo Irish Bank depositors deserve to be paid 100 cent in the Euro plus interest. they are special!
 

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White can say what he likes, him and his party will be gone like the Greens and the PDs, gone for ever after the next elections
 

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To further protect high salaries and cushion existing privileged workers in the public sector the only way forward is to cut starting salaries and remove allowances. Alex White has warned that a deal on the Anglo Irish Bank debt will directly influence public service pay discussions and does not see any agreement on pay cuts if the Anglo Irish Bank deal fails.

By the White logic here the monies need to be found elsewhere to pay our public sector bill. How about cutting new starting salaries by 50-80%, remove allowances and increments? Our existing public sector workers need more pay than the rest of us because they deserve it. Also why does no Anglo Irish Bank deal means no pay cuts? shouldn't it translate to more cuts? A very sharp and twisted man this Alex White.
What do you do for a living? Why not ask your employer to cut your pay by 50 - 80 % so they can hire an additional employee. This could also save the taxpayer a significant amount of money in social welfare payments. We all need to do our bit to bail out deserving bond holders and hedge fund managers you know.
 

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So we should pay nurses 100 euros a week? About 3.00 an hour. Wouldn't they be on less than the minimum wage then? Can't see how this excellent suggestion would overcome that pesky obstacle.
new nurses should be honored to be allowed to work along with the highly paid existing staff. it must be terrible stress to the senior nurses to work with these new poor people. that is just terrible! there should be a clear division between the new public sector workers and the privileged ones. maybe have two different canteens and two different types of uniforms?
 
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new nurses should be honored to be allowed to work along with the highly paid existing staff. it must be terrible stress to the seniors nurses to work with these new poor people. that is just terrible! there should be a clear division between the new public sector workers and the privileged ones. maybe have two different canteens and two different types of uniforms?
That would be discrimination. No, I wouldn't like that at all. Better to put new nurses on the same conditions as all other nurses.
 

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It's already happened. Hospital consultants have had 58% overall cut in salary since 2008. This is for public-only Type A contracts (the only one the HSE offers).

It's clearly improved things in the ongoing effort to shut down the health service. 20% of consultant posts went unfilled last year.
 

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It's already happened. Hospital consultants have had 58% overall cut in salary since 2008. This is for public-only Type A contracts (the only one the HSE offers).

It's clearly improved things in the ongoing effort to shut down the health service. 20% of consultant posts went unfilled last year.
re-skill the nurses and make them consultants, all the same anyways.
 

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In my opinion the reason that Europe is not sympathetic to a bank debt deal for Ireland is because our public service and politicians are better paid than most of Europe and the Croke Park Deal is viewed as self serving kop out by politicians to preserve their own pay and pensions.

If the tables were turned and we were asked to bail out a country with higher paid politicians and public sector of course we would tell them to piss off and sort out their internal problem first. Do we imagine the Europeans are stupid?
 

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To further protect high salaries and cushion existing privileged workers in the public sector the only way forward is to cut starting salaries and remove allowances. Alex White has warned that a deal on the Anglo Irish Bank debt will directly influence public service pay discussions and does not see any agreement on pay cuts if the Anglo Irish Bank deal fails.

By the White logic here the monies need to be found elsewhere to pay our public sector bill. How about cutting new starting salaries by 50-80%, remove allowances and increments? Our existing public sector workers need more pay than the rest of us because they deserve it. Also why does no Anglo Irish Bank deal means no pay cuts? shouldn't it translate to more cuts? A very sharp and twisted man this Alex White.
I have a better idea.

Bring in a set pay scale starting at €20,000 and topping out at €50,000 for all civil servants, including teachers, garda, judges, TDs, council managers, water board people, etc across the board. Apart from the Equality Authority and a couple of other quangos all the other quango members should be summarily fired. Set all pensions on a scale from stanadard government pension for all to roughly twice that for all.

As well since solicitors and barristers on legal are in effect working for the tax payer there pay from the tax payer should be capped at about €30 an hour, while making it an automatic jailable offence to claim for more than that, as well as bringing in a ten strikes and life in jail law to cut down on the number of cash cows criminals.

Anyone objects, thank them for there resignation, including mass resignations if necessary.

Ireland has almost half a million unemployed to fill any job that someone resigns from and if the Irish don't have the skills to fill all of them, then there are tens of millions of unemployed all across Europe from teachers, to police, to city managers, to consultants who are unemployed, who can instantly fill those jobs at the new reduced salary.

Also as they would have resigned there posts they would have made themselves intentionally unemployed, therefore should be banned from unemployment benefit.

Delete all allowances and bring in the allowance that is standard in Northern Europe for claiming back travel to and from work with receipts at the end of the year, which is the only allowance they should need. If there is public tranport on the same route, do not refund a car, unless disabled.

Also while doing this, make it a criminal offence for any charity to pay an employee or engage in political lobbying, tax all churches as business's which they are and bring in a ban on non-EU work visas until unemployment drops to a level of say 1%.

Also an extraction tax on resources of 10% of cost per unit should be installed.

That would shake things up a bit.
 
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