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De Valera refused entry to Nazis


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Article in todays Sunday Times. It seems newly published documents show the Irish government had a restrictive policy towards aliens, including Nazis, after WW II.

Oswald Mosley sought to enter Ireland after his release from imprisonment. The Irish govt. could not legally bar him from entry but it was made clear he would not be welcomed. However he did live in Ireland for a time in the 50s.

The former dissident Nazi, Otto Strasser appealed to De Valera in 1946 to gain entry to Ireland but was refused. Likewise also the Belgian SS leader Leon Degrelle. The government also tried to discourage Breton separatists from entering Ireland

The restrictive policy also applied to allied leaders, however. After the war Montgomery sought a meeting with the leader of the Irish army. However this was refused because it would have given rise to suspicions about a secret defence pact with the British.

I don't have a Sunday Times subscription so no link. This seems to explode the often argued contention that the Irish goverrnment offered a welcoming home for ex Nazis after the war.
 


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but what of the rat run he allowed for Nazis. And some Nazis were allowed stay here, some of their spawn are prominent names today. And was not that Lukyz guy who was involved with Haughey in importing arms not a Nzi sympathiser ?
 

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yup, and my missus wont allow any more women into the relationship. De Valera reckoned he didnt need any other murderous sociopath hypocrite ruining his monopoly hegemony. Hitler did the same in his country.
 

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Article in todays Sunday Times. It seems newly published documents show the Irish government had a restrictive policy towards aliens, including Nazis, after WW II.

Oswald Mosley sought to enter Ireland after his release from imprisonment. The Irish govt. could not legally bar him from entry but it was made clear he would not be welcomed. However he did live in Ireland for a time in the 50s.

The former dissident Nazi, Otto Strasser appealed to De Valera in 1946 to gain entry to Ireland but was refused. Likewise also the Belgian SS leader Leon Degrelle. The government also tried to discourage Breton separatists from entering Ireland

The restrictive policy also applied to allied leaders, however. After the war Montgomery sought a meeting with the leader of the Irish army. However this was refused because it would have given rise to suspicions about a secret defence pact with the British.

I don't have a Sunday Times subscription so no link. This seems to explode the often argued contention that the Irish goverrnment offered a welcoming home for ex Nazis after the war.
Wasn't Montgomery born in Ireland? Inishowen area?
 

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Quick!
Somebody dig out how he once ordered a German beer somewhere (maybe) once.
 

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ireland was nazi sympathetic and has along sorry history of taking in nazis and or gettign its ira members to be trained by them
 

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ireland was nazi sympathetic and has along sorry history of taking in nazis and or gettign its ira members to be trained by them
Oh boy, can you expand on this please.

Maybe provide a smidgeon of evidence?
 

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Some of the IRA were Nazi sympathisers. Country as a whole wasn't
Only in the sense that they were Britain's enemy. I seriously doubt they supported Nazi policies.
 

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Otto Skorzeny living in Kildare; the Mosleys at Clonfert and then near Fermoy; Albert Folens who sold us all our schoolbooks; Mr Luyckxz who tried to sell guns; Yann Goulet the Breton sculptor; and that's the better-known, how many smaller fry came here?

Plus you have our own bould Sean McBride in cahoots in the 1930s then hastily setting up Amnesty International here with Herr Clissmann. Gemutlich!
 

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Apparently Monty enjoyed the same peccadilloes as another Great Englishman with connections to the North West.
Face down and snorkelling through the sewer I see Seanie, well done you.:roll:
 

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Only in the sense that they were Britain's enemy. I seriously doubt they supported Nazi policies.
oh yes, Fundamentalist Catholicism and right wing values are so so incompatible ?
 

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Hitlers praises were being sung because he swept the British back to Dunkirk, this occurred far outside the ranks of the small ineffectual IRA of the time, also antisemitism was rife throughout Europe, Churchill was an anti-semite.

To single out certain members of the IRA leadership without putting it into temporal context is a bit disingenuous to say the least.

To suggest the IRA condoned the spectrum of Nazi ideology is re-imagined nonsense. The Blueshirts were much more comfortable with that sort of thing
 
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Article in todays Sunday Times. It seems newly published documents show the Irish government had a restrictive policy towards aliens, including Nazis, after WW II.

Oswald Mosley sought to enter Ireland after his release from imprisonment. The Irish govt. could not legally bar him from entry but it was made clear he would not be welcomed. However he did live in Ireland for a time in the 50s.

The former dissident Nazi, Otto Strasser appealed to De Valera in 1946 to gain entry to Ireland but was refused. Likewise also the Belgian SS leader Leon Degrelle. The government also tried to discourage Breton separatists from entering Ireland

The restrictive policy also applied to allied leaders, however. After the war Montgomery sought a meeting with the leader of the Irish army. However this was refused because it would have given rise to suspicions about a secret defence pact with the British.

I don't have a Sunday Times subscription so no link. This seems to explode the often argued contention that the Irish goverrnment offered a welcoming home for ex Nazis after the war.
Why was SS-Obersturmbannführer Otto Skorzeny allowed spend part of his time between 1959 and 1969 in Martinstown House, Co. Kildare?

 

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ireland was nazi sympathetic and has along sorry history of taking in nazis and or gettign its ira members to be trained by them
Dumbest thing posted here in a while.

Nazi's went to one of two places after WW2.

a) South America.
b) Stayed in West Germany. Many were too vital to the administration of the country, and as a result De-nazifiation of Germany never really succeeded much.
 

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Hitlers praises were being sung because he swept the British back to Dunkirk, this occurred far outside the ranks of the small ineffectual IRA of the time, also antisemitism was rife throughout Europe at the time, Churchill was an anti-semite.
In fairness I would be sceptical Churchill was an anti semite. He did express some controversial comments regarding Jewish support of Communism after the Russian revolution but to say he was an anti semite seems unlikely in my opinion.
 

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