Decryption & Anglo

richie268

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I see this as another play for time and I am sure the bond markets and hedge fund managers
are not away with the fairy's either.
This is absolute bollix, if they have the hard disks they have everything!
It could be done in an hour!
Why Dont they put the decryption of Anglos computer drives out to tender on a no foal no fee basis,
Call for Taoiseach to pursue Anglo password holders - The Irish Times - Thu, Nov 11, 2010
One thing I know is that they do not credit us the people with much cop on and therefore I offer my services for free .
Lawyers and Liars
 


cedissapointed

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Maybe they should hack these places from the outside then they will give us their attentions :D
Our government has never stood up to the EU and certainly not the banks,and today has proved that nothing has changed.
 

Lord Wellington

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I see this as another play for time and I am sure the bond markets and hedge fund managers
are not away with the fairy's either.
You are of course correct.

It is a nonsense story put out by Fianna Fail to con a gullible Irish public.

If the "bond market" were presented with some ficker would wouldn't fess up. Well that ficker is dead.

Oh. That ficker if Ireland.
 

Lord Wellington

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One thing I know is that they do not credit us the people with much cop on and therefore I offer my services for free .
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The boyos are only doing their best.

Keystone cops with very little cop on.

But that not true either really, is it.

The Garda are being controlled by Fianna Fail.

Simples.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sahm3ot89cc&feature=related]YouTube - Just for laughs......Keystone Cops Robbery !!![/ame]
 

richie268

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We endured the IRA the INLA and all the others and Cowen states for the record.
“the biggest investigation in the history of the State”.
And it seems nobody in this state can operate on a hard disk.
Now I know why we need more R&D and God bless the Smart Economy.
Of course it is all lies and the markets know that but toffee apples for trying.
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Aindriu

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It is more likely that the documents were encyrpted using PGP encryption. That uses both a private key (used to encrypt it) and a public key (used to decrypt). They are harder to crack than simple passwords and the algorithms are therefore larger and more complex. The crackers you highlight in your link will not work against PGP.

Given the sensitivity of the data Anglo clearly wished to hide, I would be extremely surprised if they had merely used the password protection utilities in MS Office,
 

karldaly

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@ Lord Wellington

Keystone cops with very little cop on.
But that's not true either really, is it?
The Garda are being controlled by Fianna Fail.

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Unfortunately for the Irish taxpayers, the above statements are proving to be correct.
Current evidence and statements proves these points.
This is all part of the banking cover-up which has been in operation since 29th September 2008.
But the most dispiriting part of these latest developments is it now appears that sections of the Gardai are also involved.
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Any one of the following 10 people could crack any passwords ANYWHERE for ten grand - IN ONE HOUR.
Top 10 Most Famous Hackers of All Time - IT Security

And for the government to fob us off with the current feeble excuse says a lot about the contempt in which they hold the Irish taxpayers.
Our government has been the laughing stock of the international financial community for many months now.
Unfortunately this government is now being also labeled as "criminal cover-up artists."

A political, banking and civil-service elite is besmirching the good name of Ireland in the furtherance of their own voracious and greedy objectives and to think that the Gardai may now also be involved is particularly depressing.

When 'the thin blue line' of the police, in any society, becomes fractured all hope quickly begins to evaporate.

What started out as an insolvent banking crisis has now degenerated in to something far more serious and there appears to be nobody in the government or the security services who is willing to shout STOP.
The average Irish person is now coming to realise that you can get away with even the most serious types of white-collar criminal activity even if your crimes BRING ABOUT THE DESTRUCTION OF THE COUNTRY'S ECONOMY.

It will take a generation for Ireland to recover from this rampant corruption, as our country's good name gets dragged deeper and deeper into the dirt with every passing day and the best and brightest of Ireland's youth abandon our shores in disgust - NEVER TO RETURN.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ef15CG_9hA&feature=player_embedded]YouTube - CEPS's Gros Says Ireland Must Clarify Bank Debt Plans[/ame]
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abccormac

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Any one of the following 10 people could crack any passwords ANYWHERE for ten grand - IN ONE HOUR.
Top 10 Most Famous Hackers of All Time - IT Security
Not according to wikipedia anyway:

In 2003, an incident involving seized Psion PDAs belonging to members of the Red Brigade indicated that neither the Italian police nor the FBI were able to decrypt PGP-encrypted files stored on them.[5]

A more recent incident in December 2006 (see United States v. Boucher) involving US customs agents and a seized laptop PC which allegedly contained child pornography indicates that US Government agencies find it "nearly impossible" to access PGP-encrypted files. Additionally, a judge ruling on the same case in November 2007 has stated that forcing the suspect to reveal his PGP passphrase would violate his Fifth Amendment rights i.e. a suspect's constitutional right not to incriminate himself.[6][7] The Fifth Amendment issue has been opened again as the case was appealed and the federal judge again ordered the defendant to provide the key.[8]

Evidence suggests that as of 2007, British police investigators are unable to break PGP,[9] so instead have resorted to using RIPA legislation to demand the passwords/keys. In November 2009 a British citizen was convicted under RIPA legislation and jailed for 9 months for refusing to provide police investigators with encryption keys to PGP-encrypted files.[
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From my limited understanding, it's possible to place the password on a thumb drive and use that to open the files without knowing what the code actually is. If you dump the thumb drive it's almost impossible to retrieve the information.
 

Aindriu

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From my limited understanding, it's possible to place the password on a thumb drive and use that to open the files without knowing what the code actually is. If you dump the thumb drive it's almost impossible to retrieve the information.
Absolutely correct.

PGP is very, very difficult to crack.
 

The Lighthouse Keeper

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The Smart Economy?

Can the people in possession of / witholding passwords be charged with any offence? i.e. impeding the Gardaí in the conduct of their duties.
Is one entitled to refuse to give such information because it might be self incriminating?
 

Aindriu

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Can the people in possession of / witholding passwords be charged with any offence? i.e. impeding the Gardaí in the conduct of their duties.
Is one entitled to refuse to give such information because it might be self incriminating?
Yes they can and people have been already in the UK.
 

Grumpy Jack

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I see the legal concepts of 'chain of evidence' and 'fruit of the poisoned tree' are alien to the P.ie rentamob.

But criminal court judges take them rather more seriously - thankfully, the Gardai and DPP do too.
 

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Can the people in possession of / witholding passwords be charged with any offence? i.e. impeding the Gardaí in the conduct of their duties.
Is one entitled to refuse to give such information because it might be self incriminating?
Probably. But they won't be.

Not in FF's interests for the investigation to conclude
 

an innocent abroad

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I am amazed that these people have not been arrested for interference of a criminal investigation? Anglo belongs to the Irish taxpayer, so I'm assuming the property i.e. the codes are also the property of the taxpayer? Last night on V.B. Bill black, a former regulator could not believe this was still going on, and stated it was quite clear there was no real investigation and no real laws re Elite white collar crime. Send an email to the Dept of Justice demanding that those responsible be arrested!
 


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