Democracy in Crisis? The Tour.

Half Nelson

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John Waters, Fr. Marcel G., Declan Ganley and a number of other speakers will address the nature of democracy, the meaning of our constitution in relation to fundamental rights, the responsibility of citizens, the importance of preserving freedom and the integrity of our national consensus.


https://www.facebook.com/crisisofdemocracyireland/

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Half Nelson;1 Book early![/QUOTE said:
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We don't need to spend good hard earned cash to be told Democracy is in crisis.
The cover up of scandal after scandal has left us all in a State of Dictatorship.
 

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Given that you're so keen to promote it that you stayed up late, Half, are we safe in presuming that "fundamental rights, the responsibility of citizens, the importance of preserving freedom and the integrity of our national consensus" are just so many weasely phrases for a return to an RCC hegemony?

Good luck to the lads, anyway. They seem a very caring team - unless, of course, that mysterious "Fr Marcel G" is the notorious gay-hating freak, Fr, Marcel Guarnizo.
 
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Yerman, Kommunist - a Corkwegian, and frequent OP in the "Events" forum might be into this lot.

The lineup sounds like the four whoresmen of the cathpocalypse.
 

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Part of the war on democratic rights is an attack on diversity of opinion/free speech. Fair play to Senator David Norris for his strident attack on censorship of people like Kevin Myers in Seanad Eireann as reported by Oireachtas Report. He made the point that there has to be room for dissenting opinions. Senator Michael McDowell agreed.
 

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Forms of government are means to the end of securing the common good. They are not ends in themselves and the wonderful Pope Leo XIII condemned the concept of making democracy an end in itself labelling it "Americanism". We would be much better off with a decent military dictator such as Thomas Sankara or Col Ghaddafi than with Leo gay socks. I hope they will not be making out that democracy is a good in and of itself.
 

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Forms of government are means to the end of securing the common good. They are not ends in themselves and the wonderful Pope Leo XIII condemned the concept of making democracy an end in itself labelling it "Americanism". We would be much better off with a decent military dictator such as Thomas Sankara or Col Ghaddafi than with Leo gay socks. I hope they will not be making out that democracy is a good in and of itself.
While I agree that serving the common good should be the end, democracy is the best means for determining what that is.

Even with superhuman good will (an impossibility) dictators simply can't know what the common good is.
 

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Damn....I'll be polishing the horse brasses.
 

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Given the current farce of a Tanaiste who is incompetent AND deliberately deceitful to both the cabinet & public AND abusing state power, they might have timed this well.

It seems to me that the current ongoing gardai related scandals are leaving the entire system in crisis.

For me the biggest threats to democracy are
- the nEU empire
- media power dictating the publuc agenda
- the collapse of the law as evidenced by the failure to initiate prosecutions arising from the Moriarty Tribunal findings
- the failure to bring anybody to account for any public failures
 

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Three unelectable loons.

Next!
 

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Fr. Marcel was made aware that Barbara is gay when she and her partner of 19 years met with him that morning well before the service began. It was his ecclesiastic responsibility at that meeting offer to take Barbara’s confession and then grant her absolution; this would have allowed him to then in good conscience offer her communion later. And Barbara would have certainly been pleased to do a confession with Fr. Guarnizo.

“Obviously, I don’t think being gay is a sin,” she told me. “But this wasn’t about me. This was about about my wonderful mother having the beautiful funeral that she deserved. So yes, I would have let Father Marcel grant me absolution.”

But Fr. Marcel failed to offer Barbara that rite.

Strike one.

Then he denied Barbara communion.

Strike two.

Then, at the moment Barbara began delivering her mother’s eulogy, he made a point of rising from his seat and walking off the alter.

Strike three.

Then, after the funeral service, Father Knows Worst hid in his chambers, and after 15 minutes sent out word that he would not be accompanying the grieving party to the cemetery, leaving no one to properly bury Barbara’s mother, a life-long devout Catholic.
Father ‘No Communion for You!’
 

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While I agree that serving the common good should be the end, democracy is the best means for determining what that is.

Even with superhuman good will (an impossibility) dictators simply can't know what the common good is.
And the increasingly imbecile and degenerate masses can? My mum in law says about democracy that in theory it is mob rule but in practice the rule of gold, and I think that describes what it is in the Republic of Ireland very well. Democracy very easily turns into demonocracy. Though strictly speaking the Church doesn't bless one form of government over another and isn't against democracy She does in general prefer Monarchy. What is it with Irish Catholics and their addiction to Political Liberalism, the Russian girl who is studying over here that I have befriended takes it as read that you cannot be a Christian and a democrat, I used to make very similar arguments to her when I was a Protestant and I find them very difficult to answer. I really love Russian muscular Christian Socialism, I'm a huge fan of the Essence of Time movement and Alexander Dughin. It is a big problem for me that so many middle class conservative Catholics in Ireland look towards the United States for inspiration when that country which was founded in an overtly Anti-Catholic revolt led by Freemasons is accursed at it's very roots. Have you read St Thomas Aquinas's and Dante's writings on Monarchy? You should.

Thomas Aquinas: De Regno: English

https://www.stmarys-ca.edu/sites/default/files/attachments/files/On_Monarchy.pdf
 

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Democracy is NOT in a crisis.

It is bending to the needs of those that matter.

Regards from Malta.
 

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For a "lifelong Catholic" she hasn't a clue.
But it is Huffpost.
Then, after the funeral service, Father Knows Worst hid in his chambers, and after 15 minutes sent out word that he would not be accompanying the grieving party to the cemetery, leaving no one to properly bury Barbara’s mother
 


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