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Democracy .. Irish style - Voter turnout araound 30%? .. On a SATURDAY


robut

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Hi Guys,

Looking through the @RTENEWS tweets ( https://twitter.com/rtenews ) about voter turnouts across the country it looks like it will average at about 30% or so. And this on a Saturday. I would assume the turnout would have been much lower if it were on a week day so?

I reckon this compounds Irish Apathy toward actually voting .. couldnt be bothered, shur someone else with take the responsibility.

Attitude toward this referendum I reckon is their was no real opposition so voters said "Couldnt be bothered".

Voting is a privilege apparently? But most Irish just couldnt care less it seems.
 
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borntorum

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It is a privilege. I'm not aware of any other countries where all changes to the Constitution are put to the people (though I'm sure there are some).
 

bluefirelog

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Attitude toward this referendum I reckon is their was no real opposition so voters said "Couldnt be bothered".

Voting is a privilege apparently? But most Irish just couldnt care less it seems.
We'll see what the results are like? The poll here doesn't indicate it's a giveaway...we'll see.
In a lot of countries, they would have low turnout if they didn't actually legally oblige people to vote...maybe you'd prefer that? You can be fined for not showing up and they put the voting on weekends...better not plan to be away that particular weekend!!
 

firefly123

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This referendum simply failed to ignite public interest which might suggest that it was not necessary in the first place. I'm glad they are doing this on a Saturday. Midweek is stupid.
 

Mr Aphorisms

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I'll say why I didn't vote.

The governments of Ireland since the Free State have been unable to do anything remotely positive when one really looks hard at it. Ireland was saved by the EU which has helped it enormously. It is no coincidence that since the EU, Ireland has been on the up, if you will.

Our governments though, without the EU have done little for change in Ireland. What hope is there in the FG/LAB government actually helping children? I very much doubt if they will, unless the EU smacks them to do so. This is a nice referendum that allows the government to act caring and compassionate.

I have no faith at all in the Irish government. I unequivocally have no faith in the Irish populace. We're the worst country for voting turn outs and knowledge of the EU, for example. We elect the same parties every year and only in Ireland could FF have survived after wrecking the country. Not only have they survived, they're on their way up again.

It is simple: This country is a political joke lampooned across Europe. We have not got the politicians or the people to have a functioning democracy. Unfortunately, the EU is really hitting us hard lately. Hopefully that will change and they will again, drag us out of the mess that we the people created by electing these governments, but also, for not paying attention to what happens in politics in Ireland, just as they dragged Ireland out of the primitive wreck we were living in ages ago.

This is the first time I have ever not voted. I couldn't have even been arsed to have went down and wrote "I am for the ideas of the First Dail regarding children."

Let the EU sort all of this out, which they intend to do. Our government cannot do anything positive. Only external forces can help this kip.
 

Marcos the black

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Hrmmmm... They should let P.ie posters run the country.... We just know Sooooo much better. :)
 
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It may be that people who are not particularly interested in politics want to be left alone on a Saturday. Voting is an obligation to them and they will do it on a working day but not on their precious day off when they have other plans. All of us here get some kind of buzz out of politics but a lot of people don't.
 

wombat

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It may be that people who are not particularly interested in politics want to be left alone on a Saturday.
I think a lot of people don't see the relevance of the amendment to their own lives.
 

nonpartyboy

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The sheeple in action again, whatever your opinion you should always register your vote and post your ballot, even if you just write "************************ers" on it.
 

bluefirelog

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This referendum simply failed to ignite public interest which might suggest that it was not necessary in the first place. I'm glad they are doing this on a Saturday. Midweek is stupid.
It was hard to remember to vote today as we're not used to it. I don't mind voting on a Saturday, as long as they announce the date well in advance so you can plan to be around to actually vote. I think it's terrible closing down schools for a day so that voting can happen, so I was glad it happened on a Saturday this time. Also when I was a student, I wanted it on a weekend as I didn't study where my vote was registered.
 

potholedogger

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I think a lot of people don't see the relevance of the amendment to their own lives.
People are basically selfish. Many did not perceive there was something in it for them, or that they might miss out if it was not passed!
 

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I think a lot of people don't see the relevance of the amendment to their own lives.
Then how do you explain 50% turnout for the Fiscal Treaty? Face it, we're a politically thick nation. Don't forget the reasons for voting No as well in the last EU referendum. Hardcore free thinkers the ones who do turn up to vote.
 

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It is one very strange referendum.
No political party is against it.
There's not even a reasonably well recognised protest group against it, that I know off?
The only people I've heard who may vote no, argue that it's not robust enough?

I think we could have the lowest turnout ever...
 

wombat

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People are basically selfish. Many did not perceive there was something in it for them, or that they might miss out if it was not passed!
That's always the way, people are primarily interested in what effects them, their family, their neighbours. There is a problem with referendums when the question is not a simple one that you can answer with a Yes/No. People are suspicious of questions that they can't understand clearly on their own.
 

Keith-M

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A non critical issue, an electorate that is rapidly feeling more and more powerless. Our politicians are not only failing Ireland, they are failing the entire democratic process.
 

ticketyboo

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Hi Guys,

Looking through the @RTENEWS tweets ( https://twitter.com/rtenews ) about voter turnouts across the country it looks like it will average at about 30% or so. And this on a Saturday. I would assume the turnout would have been much lower if it were on a week day so?

I reckon this compounds Irish Apathy toward actually voting .. couldnt be bothered, shur someone else with take the responsibility.

Attitude toward this referendum I reckon is their was no real opposition so voters said "Couldnt be bothered".

Voting is a privilege apparently? But most Irish just couldnt care less it seems.
At 6.30 p.m. my polling station had a turnout of about 13%.
On a wider note, is there no limit to the twistedness of this administration. In reference to the Saturday poll, I see they've released a statement saying that in future they may choose to repeat it based on today's turnout, knowing full well that there will be a low turnout which they can use as justification to disenfranchise in particular students who won't get home. Jesus, but I fĂșcking hate this government. Really, really, hate them. Devious reprobates.
Is there anyone who voted for these people who can't see through them for what they are?
 

Johnny Zordan

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Ill tell you why turn out was low, Most people think its a hiding children need not rights.
 

jackryan

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Saturday is a bad day for voting. People aren't tuned into the news, there isn't the same discussion as there may be at work etc. And finally this myth of the youth voting?? Has anyone looked at student union turnout, It is very low. Add to that a referendum that most people were indifferent to (In my opinion pushed by children charities but not really people powered) and an opposition that were barmy so most people even those who were for it saw it as a sure thing!
 

JimComic

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A non critical issue, an electorate that is rapidly feeling more and more powerless. Our politicians are not only failing Ireland, they are failing the entire democratic process.
imo a non-critical issue referendum like this could and should have been held over to be voted on at the next general or local elections

total and pointless waste of money having it as a stand-alone event
 
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